American trilogy in Lancashire Pottery

[Son of Stopped]

Originally Posted by Corpse In The Bathtub

There's an "Elvis World Cup" in Cardiff later this year, whatever that may entail.

Elvis passes to Elvis... followed through by Elvis... a good strong header from Elvis... etc hopefully!

[tzb]

Originally Posted by Takk

I know they are welsh, but Lancashire isn't. UK, whatever, I don't think the valleys is famous for its pottery .

Well no, hence your metaphor falls down..?

[The Gutless Wonder]

It's great when you go and see an Elvis tribute act and they do 'American Trilogy'! Have to remind myself I'm not listening to the Manics!

[Takk]

Originally Posted by tzb

Well no, hence your metaphor falls down..?

Not really. Just because they are welsh doesn't mean they aren't British too. If wales was famous for its pottery, perhaps that would have been used. Also, they've not always been as proud to be welsh as they are now.

[Takk]

Besides it's blackpool...anyway as I said, it's just my idea.

[tzb]

That's fine, I just don't get it. Why specify Lancashire and Blackpool if they're referring to themselves? The reason I ask and asked is the only thing I can find which makes any relationship there is the syllable "tri".

[Mr Inconspicuous]

Time to get out that special ban stick reserved for bolshie members Takk.

[nocultureicons]

Originally Posted by Takk

I just took it to be a metaphor for the three of them, made out of english pottery but wanting to be american culture, and also the song about them being fake....I really can't explain it very well , but I guess that's the fun of it. I'm not denying it means the other things though.... I just find it hard to believe the first song on EMG refers to a trilogy and is not self referencing richey's disappearance.

Wow, you over-thought that one a little I think!

[Takk]

Originally Posted by tzb

That's fine, I just don't get it. Why specify Lancashire and Blackpool if they're referring to themselves? The reason I ask and asked is the only thing I can find which makes any relationship there is the syllable "tri".

It's just something I thought.....I think there are other reasons for blackpool and lancashire, and another meaning which links in with that. I think the song is a little autobiographical in that they are comparing themselves to the elvis impersonator.

[River Boy]

I don't think they're considering Welshness or Englishness at all. Richey at least wanted to write lyrics that anyone could be affected by, not just those who are from the same country as he. Actually he was far less likely to be praising Wales than Nicky, I think he prefered individualism to nationalism - and the valleys never gave him a reason to stay.

[Takk]

Are those lyrics by richey?

[Elizabeth M]

Originally Posted by Takk

Not really. Just because they are welsh doesn't mean they aren't British too. If wales was famous for its pottery, perhaps that would have been used. Also, they've not always been as proud to be welsh as they are now.

James Discusses Being Welsh And British:

[Scarecrow]

I saw an Elvis tribute act once, opening for another band at a dire venue in Bridlington. Better than any band I've seen supporting the Manics

As for the song, I can't believe I still haven't seen them play it after all this time!

[The Gutless Wonder]

Thanks for that clip Elizabeth! I say I'm British cos I've got a mix in my blood anyway!

[ron the little seal]

i always thought it was poverty fml