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Old 23-09-2011, 10:44
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2nd half of Know Your Enemy

I'm sitting here at the computer and decided to stick on KYE for the first time in a while. For some reason I decided to click on Dead Martyrs and let it run from there. Yes it's messy, yes JDB sounds like he's been spending too much time banging Sporty Spice, yes it's over under produced, but it sounds great to me. The KYE era was wrong for so many reasons (JDB's shirts and that belly mainly) but there's something in these songs that they've disowned compared to PFAYM, for example.

Love the "Hello?" in My Guernica, the keyboard break in the Convalescent, the whole of Epicentre, and Baby Elian.

I really dig the Wire's lyrics in these songs too. Convalescent is great - it's a fucking mess but some great lines "Goya mixes Picasso but it's hardly Spain" - don't know what the fuck it means but I'm digging it. "Kleenex kitchen towels and teletext TV / The greatest inventions of the 20th century" - that's a classic Wire line.

But having that hidden track wrecks my head (and my iTunes!)
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Old 23-09-2011, 11:28
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Aye, some of Wire's finest lyrics are on KYE and Lifeblood. He should realise this.
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Old 23-09-2011, 11:34
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But having that hidden track wrecks my head (and my iTunes!)
I was quite glad when I worked out how to fast-forward on my Blackberry! In fact, I did just that the other day to get to "We're All Bourgeois Now".

I love the end of KYE too. Some fab songs on there.
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Old 23-09-2011, 11:52
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Convalescent is just a bit too messy and unfocused for me, current favourite from KYE is Royal Correspondent, a great song right there.
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Old 23-09-2011, 11:52
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There's so much wild creativity, imagination and inspiration throughout KYE, I'd love for them to have that wild spirit of stretching their boundaries and trying out new things again. Great lyrics too outside the more political ones. And yeah, The Convalescent is just brilliant in its messiness, a rollercoaster of ranting and kick-ass rocking.

As for the hidden track, I've just edited Freedom of Speech to not have it with a sound editing program so it's its own independent track, and then have Bourgeois as another independent track. I tend to do that with all hidden tracks.
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Old 23-09-2011, 12:00
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But having that hidden track wrecks my head (and my iTunes!)
if i recall correctly, the hidden track and the time to it was a "clever" thing done by some record labels. you have to remember around about this time the max music you could get on a blank CD without overburn was 74 minutes, so if you made the album a minute or two over this they tried to eliminate "disc to disc" copying.

pirates apparently addressed this by just bypassing getting their hands on the original to copy and just downloaded it.
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Old 23-09-2011, 12:03
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I always assumed it was just a stylistic decision to keep hidden tracks hidden on CDs - after all you can see the amount of songs when you insert the disc into the machine, but by merging the hidden song with the closing track with some silence, the surprise stays intact.

Hidden tracks like that have been happening since the early 90s so I doubt it was just another failed attempt at copy protection.
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Old 23-09-2011, 12:32
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It really is a shame how much of the second half of the album got neglected live. I think The Convalescent might just creep into my top 10.
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Great album all round is KYE!
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Great album all round is KYE!
Second half's better cos it doesn't have Ocean Spray or So Why So Sad. Unless you get the Australian version of the album which has the Avalanches mix of So Why So Sad as a bonus that makes the second half even better
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Could've dropped the 2nd half and had a great album. As it stands, at least it's top-loaded with all the good songs (apart from Robeson)
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Old 23-09-2011, 12:40
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Hidden tracks like that have been happening since the early 90s so I doubt it was just another failed attempt at copy protection.
oh absolutely, i seem to recall Nevermind did it? it just made a very interesting return around the time that CD-R became affordable and viable for such a use!

the way that The Stone Roses did it with Second Coming was much better. at least you could skip with ease to The Foz if you were fucking mental enough to wish to hear it a second time.


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Second half's better cos it doesn't have Ocean Spray or So Why So Sad. Unless you get the Australian version of the album which has the Avalanches mix of So Why So Sad as a bonus that makes the second half even better
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Could've dropped the 2nd half and had a great album. As it stands, at least it's top-loaded with all the good songs (apart from Robeson)
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Old 23-09-2011, 12:55
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Could've dropped the 2nd half and had a great album. As it stands, at least it's top-loaded with all the good songs (apart from Robeson)
Think that's a bit black and white tbh.
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