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Old 24-12-2009, 11:19
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WTF?! Not only do you miss out some of the greats of English football but you say Pierre 'is he actually here today?' Van Hooijdonk is their greatest player?! He scored 95% of his goals for them in division 1! I'd even put Collymore and Bryan Roy above him.
sorry i got those stats wrong.

81 games, 44 goals.

He is a pundit for Eredvisse. (Dutch Premier League).

For Forrest to get him was a great scalp, allready a prolific striker, then left just as prolific.

600 games near 400 goals....
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Old 24-12-2009, 11:23
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Old 24-12-2009, 11:25
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He is a pundit for Eredvisse. (Dutch Premier League).
How does that mean he was a good footballer?
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Their greatest player wasn't even there when they won Europe's biggest club prize? Twice?

Sigh, for some people football really did start the day the Premier League kicked off.
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Old 24-12-2009, 14:18
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How does that mean he was a good footballer?
a comment asked 'where is he now' so i just gave some basic info regarding Van Hooijdy.
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Old 24-12-2009, 14:38
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WTF?! Not only do you miss out some of the greats of English football but you say Pierre 'is he actually here today?' Van Hooijdonk is their greatest player?! He scored 95% of his goals for them in division 1! I'd even put Collymore and Bryan Roy above him.
I was a Forest season ticket holder back in those days. Just because van Hooijdonk never had a decent crack at the Prem doesn't mean he wasn't a quality player. To put Bryan Roy in the same league is ridiculous, Collymore is the only striker we've had in the same class post-Clough in my opinion.

Just done a bit of research:
* NAC Breda - 81 goals in 115 matches, promotion to the Dutch top flight, call-up to Netherlands team
* Celtic - not won a trophy in six years, won Scottish Cup at first attempt scoring the only goal, 57 goals in 68 appearances
* Nottingham Forest - the already discussed bit of his career, World Cup call-up
* Vitesse Arnhem - 25 goals in one season to qualify for UEFA Cup
* Benfica - 19 goals in one season despite lack of stability (three different managers)
* Feyenoord - integral in winning the UEFA Cup; 2 goals in the final and victories over PSV, Inter and Borussia Dortmund among others
* Finished his career by taking two league titles at Fenerbahce before returning for a quick spell at NAC

It's also worth noting that the Division 1 title (second tier) that he fired us to is the ONLY trophy we've lifted since Clough retired. Maybe not a "Forest great" per se but a great nevertheless. We broke up his strike partnership while he was at the World Cup and made promises regarding leaving that were later reneged. He deserved better.

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Peter Shilton
Chris Woods
Trevor Francis
Frank Clark
Martin O'Neill
Mark Crossley
Des Walker
Roy Keane
Stuart Pearce
Teddy Sheringham
Stan Collymore

etc. etc. etc. etc.
Great players one and all. None of them could strike a dead ball like van Hooijdonk though, not even Pearce with his powerful direct style.

I'll excuse you for missing John Robertson just because you added 'etc'.

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Their greatest player wasn't even there when they won Europe's biggest club prize? Twice?

Sigh, for some people football really did start the day the Premier League kicked off.
I was thinking along these lines a few days ago because John McGovern assists with the commentary on Radio Nottingham. How much does that name mean to most of the general populace?
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Old 24-12-2009, 15:05
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Do they still play that Robin Hood theme tune just before the players come out? Im sure they had the speakers on full blast in the away end !! it was deafening.
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Old 24-12-2009, 17:02
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Nottingham Forest was the team I picked as a kid. Way before I'd heard of the Manics!
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Old 24-12-2009, 17:15
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Van Hooijdy scored 37 goals from 70 appearances, not a bad return. Just my point of view, feel free to take it or leave it.

Kevin Campbell was not at all bad too.
You were too young to appreicate the young Forest team of the 80's, they were a joy to watch, Clough Junior. Webb, Pearce, Walker, to name a few.
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Old 24-12-2009, 17:17
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Peter Shilton
Chris Woods
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Frank Clark
Martin O'Neill
Mark Crossley
Des Walker
Roy Keane
Stuart Pearce
Teddy Sheringham
Stan Collymore

etc. etc. etc. etc.

Nigel Clough missing, he was one of the most skillfull players I have ever seen.
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Old 24-12-2009, 17:31
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Old 24-12-2009, 17:37
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Nigel Clough missing, he was one of the most skillfull players I have ever seen.
I remember watching him play on telly during his final year at Forest but I didn't start attending matches until the year after under Frank Clark. It's always pained me a bit that I wasn't around to see him in the flesh back then. He had this brilliant vision, an intelligence that enabled him to see things before others could. A joy to behold really.

I did finally see him in person when he returned on loan years later but he was a shadow of his former self by then.

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Old 24-12-2009, 17:40
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