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21-10-2007, 15:20
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21-10-2007, 15:34
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no i still dont understand....
do you consider it some sort of justification or gratification or something when a live album is "released" ? cause i dont. albums and singles barely register these days as an event when theyre released , so why should a live album? like ive just made 5 or 6 dvds of stuff from this yr ive downloaded (tv shows, point cardiff gig, xfm gig) varying quality but the stuff is there. and wether or not its released jsut doesnt really matter
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21-10-2007, 15:41
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No, I just want to know what people think would be the best audio bootleg to become a commercial release, rather than which gig they think is best personally, or imaginatively for gigs which weren't recorded.
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21-10-2007, 15:48
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no i havnt a clue what your saying......
you're talking about a bootleg, say for instance a great gig that someone wonderful like Ben has recorded, being released? but released to whom? the recording exists already........... why would you release it? this "community " already has a great selection of live recordings to testament to the manics' brilliant live playing and all that. live albums are a sack of shit and an absolute cop out imo.
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21-10-2007, 15:53
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*smacks head on wall*
it's not real, it is a purely theoretical exercise, it is just an item open for discussion. No recording will be released as a result of this thread etc perhaps I could simplify: "BEST BOOTLEG?", or "DESERT ISLAND BOOTLEG" If there was only one bootleg you could give to someone you knew nothing about, ie a listener in the future who is interested in the manics live, which would you pick? If you could only have a single set and a recording which actually exists That's all, I'm not about to release a live album, I'm just using the analogy to avoid all of this tedious explaining which most people seem to have understood
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21-10-2007, 16:09
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no no no
a bootleg and an "official " released endorsed by the band or their managment or record label they signed to is like chalk and cheese, just two completely different things. bootlegs such as ben's arent supposed to be sold, the fact that theyre free and distributed amongst the fans is what is attractive about them. and that is seperate from the manics (or namely nicky wire) sitting down putting tracks together, making a dvd or compiling a list of songs like Lipstick Tracies.
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21-10-2007, 16:15
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it was not a thread about which bootleg you think the band or their label would pick it was not a discussion about how likely it is an actual bootleg would be officially released what I am saying is if you had to pick one to give to a stranger whos musical tastes you knew nothing about (so you don't pick a particularly rocky or acoustic one for example), and sound quality was an issue (so no tape-based audience jobbies) which would you choose The word "If" does feature heavily here, suggesting perhaps you engage your imaginative faculty for the sake of discussion I really didn't expect to be making some comment on the nature of bootlegs, it was just a short-hand which as I say most seem to be fine with, sorry it has seemed to perplex you so much
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21-10-2007, 16:41
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 but you did say/write "if a live bootleg would be released" the answer as to which gig id give to someone ie easy...... one from this year, one from 2004/2005, one from 1998/99 one from 96, one from 94, and one from 92
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21-10-2007, 20:02
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Ok, I'm going to keep this to gigs that I know have been recorded, so it's in keeping with the thread title. These are the ones I consider to be the best sounding shows, as well as those that have the best/most representational setlist...
I'd go with Glastonbury 1999, Bristol 2005, Edinburgh 2005, Nynex 1997, Tokyo 2003, Wembley 2002 and The Astoria 2007. Oh, and for the record - I'm not really a fan of the term "bootleg". That, to me, implies it's being sold not traded freely. Just my two cents.
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21-10-2007, 20:19
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I'd like to have something from every era so everything's covered. Most definately the festivals too
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21-10-2007, 20:24
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Without a doubt, Glasto 94 for the for the four piece msp, it has everything from that era, nutcase james, glamourous broding nicky, richey actually playing guitar and an absolutely unbreakable sean moore.
As for the four piece, the best gig from the PPF tour, great setlist everynight, and that version of archives of pain deserves its own album really.
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21-10-2007, 23:31
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dont be so modest 
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22-10-2007, 07:44
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I want these:
Cardiff Astoria 94-10-22 London Astoria 94-12-21 Nynex 97-05-24 T in the park 99-07-11 Homecoming gig 02-11-28 Bristol 05-04-11 Leeds 05-04-17 especially PPF tour was great. 
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