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Old 21-09-2018, 19:46
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My reading of that was an entirely different "Nobody Loved you is on the 2nd disc, in addition to an entirely unheard of demo of another song"
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Well like I said, I hope you're right. I guess we'll find out soon!
That was my reading too.
No idea why journalists don't feel the need to ask questions and engage with the answers such as 'Well, why do you wanna relegate Nobody Loved You Nick? Please say and save a lot of Forever Forum Wild Theorising concerning Family Feuds Fallouts and I've run out of F -ing F's now...

When did all this trend for marking every album's anniversary come from anyways?
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Old 22-09-2018, 13:09
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The trend probably comes from people not bothering to buy albums much these days so old ones get the deluxe treatment
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Old 22-09-2018, 16:24
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When did all this trend for marking every album's anniversary come from anyways?
There definitely were a few re-issues back in the day, but mainly due to the actual limited nature of physical releases. Ahhh "LIMITED EDITION" stickers. How quaint!

I seem to remember there being a series of gigs in the mid 00's where bands were doing 10th anniversaries (if memory serves this was like when you get a re-issue with the Deluxe Edition symbol on it, almost a branded event?) By the early 2000's it was happening more with 90's bands, and then subsequently they've gone on to do 20ths etc. I kinda wonder if Nirvana/Jeff Buckley had an influence there too. Raking through the catalogue and remasters seems to be very much the way those camps have gone in the absence of any new material.
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Old 23-09-2018, 19:52
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When did all this trend for marking every album's anniversary come from anyways?
I've got a 20th anniversary edition of Sgt Pepper's kicking around somewhere from 1987!
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Old 24-09-2018, 00:54
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I've got a 20th anniversary edition of Sgt Pepper's kicking around somewhere from 1987!
Sure there must be a 50th anniversary golden deluxury edition by now....

I remember the various Nirvana/Jeff Buckley releases and the accompanying arguments over the rights and wrongs though in those cases they be dead.....thus causing so many of the arguments. Not with the dead no.
I can see the point with some albums that have long stood the test of time and been such a huge influence but anniversarying everything and adding in anything you can find from that era and throwing it in a box painting it purple and selling it at some huge price seems a bit much.....because its only really the fans that will buy it....rather than say just re-mastering/releasing/publicising and marking the anniversary of an album including maybe touring an album if relevant people not be dead...which would be of interest to old fans but also maybe draw in people who haven't bought the album before....or have more than likely been aware of the band but not really listened before....maybe. I know they have to make money and it's harder these days etc but seems disingenuous to squeeze it out of those who have supported for years sometimes...not just aiming this at the Manics...I can see it's become a general 'thing' and no one forces you to buy it etc etc
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Old 25-09-2018, 11:41
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I've got a 20th anniversary edition of Sgt Pepper's kicking around somewhere from 1987!
At least they had a legitimate reason to mark "20 years ago today"
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Old 25-09-2018, 11:49
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Sure there must be a 50th anniversary golden deluxury edition by now....
There is, he's just pointing out that 20th Anniversary editions did used to happen, though probably only on very big albums such as Sgt Pepper!
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Old 25-09-2018, 19:27
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There is, he's just pointing out that 20th Anniversary editions did used to happen, though probably only on very big albums such as Sgt Pepper!
Is he really? My. Thanks for pointing that out
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Old 25-09-2018, 22:46
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James confirmed in an interview with Absolute Radio that the 20th anniversary remastered version will be released.

It will have demos of every song except Tolerate and a remix that was never released. He didn't confirm a release date but we'll probably get news in a few days.
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Woop!

I was hoping for a Tolerate demo. Kind of interested to hear the version that would have barely passed as a b-side (sans syntglh intro).
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Old 26-09-2018, 07:47
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They’ll be proper demos too, from the days when it wasn’t expected to go on CD2... so less orchestras and choirs, more coughing and tape hiss! Love it!
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Old 26-09-2018, 08:50
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They'll probably re-record the demos

I guess there wasn't a Tolerate demo, they just built it up in the studio?
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Old 26-09-2018, 09:13
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They'll probably re-record the demos

I guess there wasn't a Tolerate demo, they just built it up in the studio?
Yeah thats how iv always understood it. Theres an intervirw with Dave Eringa somwhere that explains it.
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Old 26-09-2018, 12:00
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There is, he's just pointing out that 20th Anniversary editions did used to happen, though probably only on very big albums such as Sgt Pepper!
Yeah. I think Peppers is usually seen as the album that defined the idea of an album, whether that's right or wrong, and since then the idea of anniversary releases for important albums and more importantly the market has grown and so has the idea of what an important album is. Bands possibly embrace it because it keeps their brand in the public eye. I don't know, I'm spitballing.
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Old 26-09-2018, 12:02
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At least they had a legitimate reason to mark "20 years ago today"
Too true, the headlines wrote themselves. I was always disappointed that no-one ran with a spin of it as the fortieth anniversary of the band being taught to play.
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