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Old 29-09-2018, 20:14
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Your Dream Setlist (but with a twist)

It seems like with the talk of the TIMT re-release and Jimmy’s comments before the Absolute radio gig, we’ve reached the unofficial end of the RIF era.

As you know, one of the big critiques of Manics setlists is that loads of newer songs that are properly good just don’t get a look in, because the classics just won’t budge. To this day, the boys usually play at least 50% stuff from 1991-2000 (sometimes more.) No matter whether that makes your night or grinds your gears, I thought it might be fun to play a bit of a game.

If you ignore the 90's, the boys now have an 8 album career stretching back over nearly 2 decades. And that gave me a bit of an idea. Just imagine for one night that the 90’s basically didn’t happen and Know Your Enemy was the Manics debut album. If that were true, what would your dream setlist be?

The only rules are that you've got 20 songs and you can only choose songs released for the first time during or after 2001 (That means Motorcycle Emptiness 2003 version, or Masses as a bonus track are out. But Door to the River/Grace of God/Judge Yrself and other completely new songs on compilations are in.)

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Old 30-09-2018, 09:39
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International Blue
Walk Me To The Bridge
Your Love Alone
Empty Souls
Peeled Apples
Intravenous Agnostic
The Second Great Depression
Jackie Collins Existential Question Time
Dead Martyrs
Marlon JD
Some Kind of Nothingness
Glasnost
30 Year War
Rendition
Europa Geht Durch Mich
Me and Stephen Hawking
Solitude Sometimes Is
Hold Me Like A Heaven
Show Me The Wonder
In Eternity

I tried to keep it relatively realistic i.e no rarities. I struggled to find a natural closer.
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Old 30-09-2018, 10:17
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Are we allowed Razorblade Beat, Go Buzz Baby Go and Colt 45?

1) Found That Soul
2) Send Away The Tigers
3) The Next Jet To Leave Moscow
4) Distant Colours
5) Fragments
6) Some Kind Of Nothingness feat Ian McCulloch
7) Intravenous Agnostic
8) Glasnost
9) Rewind The Film feat Richard Hawley
10) Black Square
11) The Soulmates
12) Judge Yr'self
13) The Convalescent
14) Running Out Of Fantasy - acoustic
15) The Future Has Been Here 4 Ever - acoustic
16) 1985
17) Europa Geht Durch Mich
18) In Eternity
19) 30 Year War
20) Heyday Of The Blood

Probs change a million times the more I think about it, but whatevs.

EDIT: fuck, no Journal... what am I doing. Ah well..
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Old 30-09-2018, 12:16
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I tried to keep it relatively realistic i.e no rarities. I struggled to find a natural closer.
The closer is a real tough one. Can’t even fall back on No Surface as something different either.

I think I’d lean towards Sex, Power, Love, Money or Billion Balconies.

Edit - last song would be All We Make Is Entertainment.
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Old 30-09-2018, 12:19
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1985
Found That Soul
A Secret Society
Europa Geht Durch Mich
Intravenous Agnostic
To Repel Ghosts
Judge Yrself
Sequels of Forgotten Wars
All is Vanity
Golden Platitudes
Solitude Sometimes Is
Bobby Untitled
Epicentre
Leviathan
The Last Time I Saw Paris
My Guernica
Imperial Bodybags
Freedom of Speech Won’t Feed My Children
Daydreamer Eyes
30-Year War
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Old 30-09-2018, 22:16
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[Bonus intro music before they take to the stage : Kodawari]

Mirror Gaze
Intravenous Agnostic
Misguided Missile
Vision Blurred (Horrors cover)
Broken Up Again
Door to the River
The Second Great Depression
Dead Martyrs
To Repel Ghosts
Firefight
Fear of Motion
Heyday of the Blood
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(I Miss the) Tokyo Skyline (acoustic)
Empty Motorcade (acoustic)
Solitude Sometimes Is (acoustic)
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Black Square
Bag Lady
Sequels of Forgotten Wars
1985
Automatik Teknicolour
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Old 01-10-2018, 00:43
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International Blue
A Billion Balconies Facing the Sun
Europa Geht Durch Mich
Misguided Missile
Marlon JD
Hold Me Like A Heaven
Some Kind of Nothingness
Solitude Sometimes Is
4 Lonely Roads
Divine Youth
This Joke Sport Severed
People Give In
The Next Jet to Leave Moscow
Black Square
Don't Be Evil
All We Make Is Entertainment
There By the Grace of God
A Song for the Sadness
As Holy as the Soil
Autumnsong
A Song for a Departure
This is The Day
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Old 01-10-2018, 19:45
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I like this :-) I've tried to do this from memory without checking album tracklists so there's probably plenty I've missed off...

1. Found That Soul
2. Jackie Collins' Existential Question Time
3. Europa Der Gecht
4. A Billion Balconies Facing the Sun
5. Hold Me Like a Heaven
6. 1985
7. Dead Martyrs
8. I am Just a Patsy
9. The Next Jet to Leave Moscow
10. Postcards From a Young Man
11. Send Away The Tigers
12. Cardiff Afterlife
13. Thirty Year War
14. As Holy as the Soil (Acoustic)
15. Baby Elian (Acoustic)
16. Peeled Apples
17. Futurology
18. 4Ever Delayed
19. Show Me the Wonder
20. Walk Me to the Bridge
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Old 01-10-2018, 19:47
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This is really interesting! I thought choosing an opener would be easy (ish) but replacing a set-closer as iconic as Design ain't easy. I'll add my setlist here in a bit.
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Okay, I came up with a setlist for a December show...

I tried to build it assuming that there would be certain singles that would definitely appear, and that the band probably doesn't want to be playing too many fast songs in a row.

Also, no Autumnsong.

1. Found That Soul
2 International Blue
3 Your Love Alone
4 Dreaming a City
5 Rewind The Film
6 Empty Souls
7 Some Kind of Nothingness
8 The Convalescent
9 Indian Summer
10 Broken Algorithms
11 30 Year War

12 Jackie Collins Existential Question Time
13 Fearless Punk Ballad
14 Last Christmas

15 Ghost of Christmas
16 Sex Power Love and Money
17 People Give In
18 Solitude Sometimes Is
19. All We Make Is Entertainment
20. Show Me The Wonder
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Old 02-10-2018, 10:41
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Okay, I came up with a setlist for a December show...

I tried to build it assuming that there would be certain singles that would definitely appear, and that the band probably doesn't want to be playing too many fast songs in a row.
I love the different approaches... ! Very considerate thinking of the band, whereas as it's all made-up anyway I just decided what they would play and they'd have to deal with it. lol.
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In the same vein as the St Davids Hall gig in 2002...

Acoustic Set

1. Rewind The Film
2. Door To The River
3. Ocean Spray
4. This Joke Sport Severed
5. Builder Of Routines
6. Fragments
7. Running Out Of Fantasy
8. The Left Behind

Electric Set

09. International Blue
10. 1985
11. Forever Delayed
12. Send Away The Tigers
13. Freedom Of Speech Won't Feed My Children
14. Peeled Apples
15. Found That Soul
16. Judge Y'rself
17. Hold Me Like A Heaven
18. Golden Platitudes
19. In Eternity
20. 30 Year War
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Old 02-10-2018, 14:56
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James made a comment in recent interviews that he finds it hard to fit songs from newer albums into the natural flow of the set. Having done this, he might have a point! This was really tough.

Lifeblood is quite an interesting one. I started out (objectively) with about 6 LB songs in my set as they’ve been criminally underplayed. But as the set came together I ended up dropping them out. To get them to work as a setlist, you’d have to build everything around Lifeblood, (this is something I’d definitely pay to watch!) otherwise the difference between that and the heavier material seemed a bit too jarring.

Anyway. I’ve gone with a full on 100mph opening, (this would have been a total moshfest back in the day.) I’ve dropped in a few breathers to give it some light and shade. There’s a few rarities in here along with some of the newer big singles. You could probably alternate INWJTEOL with Your Love Alone if you wanted, they’d both fit in that slot. I had to drop Firefight, which was hugely painful, but I wanted a palette cleanser with a Jimmy acoustic track after Bag Lady.

I’ve had a tough time picking final tune like the rest of you. I had to imagine it quite a bit, because I’ve only ever seen it live once myself. But nailing my colours to the mast, I think ForeverDelayed would make a colossal set ender with all the confetti and shizz. In an alternate universe where it was properly released as a single (as it should have been), I reckon it could give ADFL a run for its money!

Peeled Apples
Found That Soul
Judge Yrself
Let’s Go To War
Indian Summer
1985
It’s Not War
Everyone Knows/Nobody Cares
Marlon JD
Dead Martyrs
Solitude Sometimes Is
Send Away the Tigers
Walk Me To The Bridge
There By The Grace of God
Bag Lady
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To Repel Ghosts
People Give In
International Blue
ForeverDelayed
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Interesting concept and makes for an interesting set list/playlist. Agree with others it is very difficult to choose a natural closer. In real terms you if you were the band, you would choose the most popular song in that period to finish with which arguably is YLAINE - but I am massively bored of that song so I left it out!

1. International Blue
2. Walk Me To The Bridge
3. Jackie Collins
4. The Next Jet to Leave Moscow
5. Distant Colours
6. Forever Delayed
7. Europa Geht Durch Mich
8. Peeled Apples
9. Send Away The Tigers
10. A Song For A Departure
11. People Give In
12. This Sullen Welsh Heart (Acoustic)
13. Baby Elian (Acoustic)
14. Me & Stephen Hawking
15. 1985
16. Golden Platitudes
17. Found That Soul
18. Marlon JD
19. 30 Year War
20. Hold Me Like A Heaven
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Old 03-10-2018, 15:24
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Found that really tough, as it is hard imagining a set list that will flow. I too have gone with songs they have played over the years, even then it was pretty difficult though. I suppose mine would look something like:

1) Peeled Apples
2) International Blue
3) It's Not War
4) Found That Soul
5) Your Love Alone
6) Walk Me to the Bridge
7) There By the Grace of God
8) 1985
9) Rewind the Film
10)Futurology
11)Some Kind of Nothingness
12)Ocean Spray


13) Door to the River (Acoustic)
14) The View From Stow Hill (Acoustic)

15) Show me the Wonder
16) Let Robeson Sing
17) People Give in
18) 30 Year War
19) Hold Me Like a Heaven
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20) Autumn Song

On reflection, I would pay decent money to watch that set list!! Struggled with a closing song as well and although I know it isn't popular in some quarters, Autumnsong is the only real one I thought would suit. Honourable mentions go to Judge Yourself, Song For Departure, To Repel Ghosts, Golden Platitudes, Red Rubber and Empty Motorcades, which I would all love to hear live some day.

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