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Old 04-07-2010, 12:58
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The Everlasting

Can someone please explain the logic to me of opening an album with a song like the Everlasting?

Is this where British rock music and the Manics career was in the late 90s.

(BTW I was there and completely thought it normal at the time, but looking back now it just seems like well polished melancholy).
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Old 04-07-2010, 12:59
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Objective: opens the album well both structurally and thematically.

Subjective addendum: cause it's amazing
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Old 04-07-2010, 13:02
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I'd query you on the structurally bit. It's a few choruses too long.

Thematically you are spot on.
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Old 04-07-2010, 13:14
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I was moreso referring to how it starts and opens the album; quiet drum machine ticking for a while before the intro and the gentle verse that slides the listener into the album, after which it gradually and slowly proceeds to build up into the sort of exploding opener that tells "hello, you have just started listening to awesome". After which it quiets down again and flows perfectly into Tolerate.
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Old 04-07-2010, 13:21
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'The Everlasting' is a beautiful song and a perfect opener for such an insular album as TIMTTMY.
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Old 04-07-2010, 13:24
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It ties in perfectly with the title of the album. Just a brutally honest song.
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Old 04-07-2010, 13:29
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I was moreso referring to how it starts and opens the album; quiet drum machine ticking for a while before the intro and the gentle verse that slides the listener into the album, after which it gradually and slowly proceeds to build up into the sort of exploding opener that tells "hello, you have just started listening to awesome". After which it quiets down again and flows perfectly into Tolerate.
I was referring to the fact that it is bascially the same as the album - too long! But then albums in the late 90s were hitting 75 and 80 minutes. Crazy.
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Old 04-07-2010, 13:52
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I was moreso referring to how it starts and opens the album; quiet drum machine ticking for a while before the intro and the gentle verse that slides the listener into the album, after which it gradually and slowly proceeds to build up into the sort of exploding opener that tells "hello, you have just started listening to awesome". After which it quiets down again and flows perfectly into Tolerate.
good description
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Old 04-07-2010, 15:31
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I'd query you on the structurally bit. It's a few choruses too long.

Thematically you are spot on.
Its 4 minutes too long!
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Old 04-07-2010, 17:09
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The only thing that I've always felt isn't needed in the song is the little drum machine thing at the very start and very end. Apart from that, I've never thought of it with regards to opening the album, it's just a song I like on an album I like.
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Old 04-07-2010, 17:15
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It ties in perfectly with the title of the album. Just a brutally honest song.
Agree with that!
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Old 04-07-2010, 23:56
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Objective: opens the album well both structurally and thematically.

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What Flinty said.
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hey proevpete, it's one of your (hopefully) Top 10 Bono lookalikes here

i would have to go along with the majority of comments here. in terms of content & tone, it sets up the rest of the album perfectly. whereas i would suggest that 1985 is their best ever opening track, that one doesn't really reflect what's going on on the rest of that album like Everlasting does for TIMTTMY.

out of curiosity, what would you propose as the opening track instead? the only obvious contender would be Tolerate, and it is an unwritten rule that if the first track on the album = first single, the album is complete crap. for proof, compare that slightly thinner leericketts impersonator Bono and his bands album "Pop".
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Hey Bono

Long time no speak. I see the real Bono is catching up with you these days!!

I agree with 1985 being the best opening track. Diehards here will say its "Yes" but 1985 shits all over it.

I see where you are coming from with the first song on the album/first single issue. I possibly would go for Prologue but then I would make it an entirely different album altogether with probably Socialist Senerade and Black Holes on there too.

But I enjoyed listening to TIMT in its entirety yesterday for the first time i near 10 years maybe. Today it's Lifeblood.
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Old 05-07-2010, 11:26
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I agree with 1985 being the best opening track. Diehards here will say its "Yes" but 1985 shits all over it.

yep, this poll right here suggests you and i are in the minority. at least 1985 currently has slightly more votes than Send Away The Tigers, i guess......
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