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Old 30-06-2014, 23:00
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^Correcto! But many bands (depending on size obviously) carry their own FOH and monitor mixing desks and engineers, that will be soundchecked at a rehearsal then the settings will be saved and then loaded at the festival, and then just tweaked. The Manics always have their own monitor desk at UK festivals, and Chris Trimby (their monitor engineer) travels round the world with them.
Yeah, I saw Chris peeking out from the sidelines.

I thought Jamesy sounded pretty good!
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Old 01-07-2014, 00:21
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Watched a bit of footage back. Certainly sounded a lot heavier on the day, drums and bass were pounding. Sean Moore is a fucking beast.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:26
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^Correcto! But many bands (depending on size obviously) carry their own FOH and monitor mixing desks and engineers, that will be soundchecked at a rehearsal then the settings will be saved and then loaded at the festival, and then just tweaked. The Manics always have their own monitor desk at UK festivals, and Chris Trimby (their monitor engineer) travels round the world with them.
It's always amusing to see bands shouting at their own engineers in these cases. But yes of course they have stuff loaded onstage; otherwise it would be a bit messy. If you've ever played a pub gig with 10 bands on the same night you'll know what I mean
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Old 01-07-2014, 16:00
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Who was the longish haired guy near the front they kept showing? Seemed to show a bit of passion and knew all the words so kudos to you sir!
That would quite possibly be me, thank you!

Rather enjoyed the entire set, PCP was a highlight. Futurology sounded great too.
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Old 01-07-2014, 20:36
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It's always amusing to see bands shouting at their own engineers in these cases. But yes of course they have stuff loaded onstage; otherwise it would be a bit messy. If you've ever played a pub gig with 10 bands on the same night you'll know what I mean
I have played... and also had the 'pleasure' of techying a few of these nightmares!! haha
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Old 01-07-2014, 21:15
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They need to speed PCP up though and stop playing it quite so slowly; it sounds like they're taking the piss like when they did Suicide Alley a few years ago.
James will pass out if that happens! Speed was fine anyway, even if the intro was about 1bpm slower than normal. Sounded doomy as fuck on the day.
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:52
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Has PCP been slowed down?

Glastonbury 2014:
Intro: 124 bpm
Main: 168 bpm

Studio:
Intro:132 bpm
Studio: 172 bpm
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Thank Christ I said "speed was fine" and not "the same" then. It sounded good, hardly slowed down to a drag. Also, really!? I suppose a rare live track wouldn't be complete without a whinge.
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Old 02-07-2014, 12:08
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But how fast did they used to play it?! Can we get an average from 10 1994 shows?
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Old 02-07-2014, 12:26
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Almost as criminal as this slowdown from a few years ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPi0Qkw4rYk
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Old 02-07-2014, 12:42
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Thank Christ I said "speed was fine" and not "the same" then. It sounded good, hardly slowed down to a drag. Also, really!? I suppose a rare live track wouldn't be complete without a whinge.
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Sounded good to me, didn't sound too slowed down. But then I didn't feel compelled to check as I was just enjoying it!
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Old 02-07-2014, 13:41
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Not that I care about the band nowadays, but I checked out a bit of YouTube footage of this performance, for nostalgia.

It's quite sad. They're old men dressing in the uniforms of their youth; they've been a stadium-band for over 15 years now, and it shows - almost auto-pilot. James' voice is now totally lost; he's totally fucked it over the years (I remember seeing some footage about 5 years ago and noticing it declining - now it seems beyond repair). It's a shame. Really highlighted on the acoustic performance he did at Glasto in a tent - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPWcFacPzZ8 - range and power exhausted - hinted at, but never appears.

New songs seem rubbish too. Shame JfPL seems to be the only worthwhile thing in the past decade of their career, and the rest is embarrassing dross.
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Not that I care about the band nowadays, but I checked out a bit of YouTube footage of this performance, for nostalgia.

It's quite sad. They're old men dressing in the uniforms of their youth; they've been a stadium-band for over 15 years now, and it shows - almost auto-pilot. James' voice is now totally lost; he's totally fucked it over the years (I remember seeing some footage about 5 years ago and noticing it declining - now it seems beyond repair). It's a shame. Really highlighted on the acoustic performance he did at Glasto in a tent - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPWcFacPzZ8 - range and power exhausted - hinted at, but never appears.

New songs seem rubbish too. Shame JfPL seems to be the only worthwhile thing in the past decade of their career, and the rest is embarrassing dross.
Ha, I was thinking the other day that I haven't seen a post from you in the manics forums for many, many months and here you are. Lo and behold, it's another fucking whinge. Time to move on, sunshine.

Just to add that James has been in this band for well over 25 years now and has had a powerful voice throughout. Age has not diluted its power for me but it is quite obvious his voice will change through age. It's inevitable. He STILL puts a lot of singers to shame.
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Old 02-07-2014, 14:49
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Not that I care about the band nowadays, but I checked out a bit of YouTube footage of this performance, for nostalgia.

It's quite sad. They're old men dressing in the uniforms of their youth; they've been a stadium-band for over 15 years now, and it shows - almost auto-pilot. James' voice is now totally lost; he's totally fucked it over the years (I remember seeing some footage about 5 years ago and noticing it declining - now it seems beyond repair). It's a shame. Really highlighted on the acoustic performance he did at Glasto in a tent - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPWcFacPzZ8 - range and power exhausted - hinted at, but never appears.

New songs seem rubbish too. Shame JfPL seems to be the only worthwhile thing in the past decade of their career, and the rest is embarrassing dross.
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Old 02-07-2014, 14:56
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I guess James has lost the great scream with time and smoking, but there are moments when he shines. The acoustic From Despair to Where on the last tour had excellent vocals at times.
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