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Old 21-05-2021, 09:00
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Can I play devil's advocate for a second and ask if there is any financial reason for putting tickets on sale for gigs that probably have a 50/50 chance of taking place on the advertised date? I imagine the band get the money straight away anyhow and simply have an obligation to fulfil the gigs at some point be it in 2022 or 2023 or whenever. I'm just wondering how it all works considering that they are the first act advertising and selling tickets to a multi-date tour in 2021/22.
Pretty sure bands don't get paid up front - what if they split up, or died, before the shows? And the promoter has to refund after reschedules if people can no longer attend etc. I have tickets for The Damned original lineup reunion shows, which were £75 each with big capacities, but they're scrabbling to survive selling branded socks etc until the shows eventually happen (the current band normally tours smallish venues all the time @ £30ish).

More likely they just need to bag dates - reschedules mean larger venues are really booking up, especially in London where gigs are always at the weekend.
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Old 21-05-2021, 09:26
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I'm just wondering how it all works considering that they are the first act advertising and selling tickets to a multi-date tour in 2021/22.
I'm not sure that this is true - the last month or so I feel like everyone's been advertising tours again. I'm constantly getting ticket announcement emails/seeing tweets and so on.

I do agree I'm still not all that confident of things planned for this year going ahead - I've actually been holding off buying tickets to anything all year just to avoid the disappointment. Hell, the Manics are playing a Derbyshire festival in July. I feel like it's a big step from where we are now to thousands of people up against each other in a field.

Like Oh Nick said above, I'm sure in part it's just a case of securing the dates just in case they can go ahead. If by September everything is safe, it'd then probably be impossible to start booking a tour for the next six months or so as everyone will be trying to do the same and venues will be booked up.
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Old 21-05-2021, 10:27
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As a Londoner, I'm giving it a miss this time. They're doing the SSE Wembley which is hard for me to get to and a horrible venue.
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Old 21-05-2021, 10:33
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Got Manchester, Stoke and York with no difficulties, and I didn't even check in during the first half hour. Definitely not the mad rush for tickets that I'm used to, but that's no bad thing.

So, I'm sorted for six gigs now. Whether any of them go ahead is another matter. First jab yesterday so I'm choosing to be optimistic.
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Old 21-05-2021, 13:21
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I can comment on the venue availability bit. I run a large venue and we have spent the last year rescheduling tour after tour, sometimes 2 or 3 times for the same artist. Our diary is rammed in the autumn, and into Spring 22. Iím surprised that they were able to get the dates to put this tour together. But glad they did obvs..

Not much is selling, but a lot of the shows now rescheduled into the autumn were already well sold pre-pandemic. Iím expecting a big surge in ticket sales if Stage 4 is confirmed on 21st June, but I wouldnít be surprised if that date pushes back a week or two. No privileged intel though, and the results of the test gigs (Blossoms in Liverpool etc.) have yet to percolate back into sector guidance.

I very much doubt that the band will have been paid upfront, certainly not full fee. Many bands are on an element of % over a certain income level anyway.

Iím optimistic but sanguine. I think we will reach Stage 4 in June (or thereabouts) but there may be enduring mitigations (face coverings etc.) for indoor venues. I reallly hope not. Mask or not I plan to be down the front at Mcr Apollo on 4th October, hollerin for Sleepflower ;-)
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Old 21-05-2021, 15:55
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I’ve booked Portsmouth - I’ve not seen a MSP arena show since Dec ‘98 and don’t intend to start now.

It’s 18 months since the last time I went to any gig, so it’s as much about having something to look forward to, irrespective how fragile certainty might be.

I’ve got my hopes up (against all better self-advice) for this record. I like widescreen MSP. ‘Lifeblood’ has had a massive renaissance with me over the last year or so and I certainly hear alignment to that album’s sound with the current single.

It has to be time surely to ditch some of those overplayed SATT/TIMTTMY singles in the set to make room for a ‘To Repel Ghosts’, ‘1985’ and ‘Empty Souls’...
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Old 21-05-2021, 19:34
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Booked Wembley ...decent seats yay.. mobile ID tickets boo ... takes away tickets delivery stress but ignites -will my phone die on the day- stress instead.

Another gap in my ticket folder thing ...sob

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Old 21-05-2021, 22:19
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Iíve booked Portsmouth - Iíve not seen a MSP arena show since Dec Ď98 and donít intend to start now.

Itís 18 months since the last time I went to any gig, so itís as much about having something to look forward to, irrespective how fragile certainty might be.

Iíve got my hopes up (against all better self-advice) for this record. I like widescreen MSP. ĎLifebloodí has had a massive renaissance with me over the last year or so and I certainly hear alignment to that albumís sound with the current single.

It has to be time surely to ditch some of those overplayed SATT/TIMTTMY singles in the set to make room for a ĎTo Repel Ghostsí, Ď1985í and ĎEmpty Soulsí...
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Old 22-05-2021, 10:04
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Old 22-05-2021, 21:07
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Been some time I posted here. Orwellian is fantastic. If this song were a single in the early 2000's, it would have topped the charts. Manics pure class. Who invented euphoric melancholia? I am so humbly grateful that they can still be the soundtrack of my life today. There is nothing but gratitude. See you guys on tour!
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Old 23-05-2021, 07:45
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Been some time I posted here. Orwellian is fantastic. If this song were a single in the early 2000's, it would have topped the charts. Manics pure class. Who invented euphoric melancholia? I am so humbly grateful that they can still be the soundtrack of my life today. There is nothing but gratitude. See you guys on tour!

Agree with all of that. I wasn't sure at the start but it's now an absolute earworm that I can't get rid of.
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Old 23-05-2021, 08:07
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Been some time I posted here. Orwellian is fantastic. If this song were a single in the early 2000's, it would have topped the charts. Manics pure class. Who invented euphoric melancholia? I am so humbly grateful that they can still be the soundtrack of my life today. There is nothing but gratitude. See you guys on tour!
Agreed. Iíd also not posted here for some time; 2011 was my last registered activity until a few days ago (which was a surprise to me as I did all three nights at the Roundhouse in Dec 2014, a life affirming experience).

Thereís really something about this single. Probably my favourite since Empty Souls (though I also absolutely love Hold Me Like A Heaven).
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Old 23-05-2021, 09:04
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Been some time I posted here. Orwellian is fantastic. If this song were a single in the early 2000's, it would have topped the charts. Manics pure class. Who invented euphoric melancholia? I am so humbly grateful that they can still be the soundtrack of my life today. There is nothing but gratitude. See you guys on tour!
It's a shame that the singles chart isn't what it used to be. The band would have a lot more success - International Blue and Orwellian would have been massive chart hits.
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Old 23-05-2021, 12:26
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It's a shame that the singles chart isn't what it used to be. The band would have a lot more success - International Blue and Orwellian would have been massive chart hits.
Does the average fifteen year old these days know who the Manics are? When did the likes of Radio one last playlist a Manics single (Your Love Alone?) It's interesting that some of band's peers (Coldplay, Foo Fighters...) are still considered important to the youth of the day but other survivors of the 90s are over the hill.
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Old 23-05-2021, 13:22
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Wembley standing booked

This new fangled e ticket malarkey is the new ticket failing to arrive in the post malarkey isnt it ??

Not only the anxiety of the ticket getting sent to the phone ok but also the phone dying on me

Oh and if the gig will actually go ahead


Hello everyone by the way !!!

Not sure if im remembered
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