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Old 27-12-2009, 21:14
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I've always thought it partially referred to Mary too.
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Old 27-12-2009, 21:15
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So I wasn't just being weird this time!...
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Old 27-12-2009, 21:19
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Is it not just a cynical look at prostitutes claiming to be virgins as this means they can charge more for their services. That's always how I saw it seeing as 'yes' is very much inspired by countries with out of control sex industries and slaves.
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Old 27-12-2009, 21:21
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That's true, but it should all be about selling yourself in the press and how much of it is sort of 'cheap'.
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Old 27-12-2009, 22:02
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I don't know if this has been mentioned in the thread already (can't be arsed to go through the whole thing ), but the line came from something an industry friend of Richey's (Caffy St Luce, I think) used to tell him everytime he complained about wishing he had never lost his virginity, something like, "listen, all virgins are liars anyway, honey!", meaning, they're not really virgins, etc. I'm not sure why he used the quote in 'Yes', perhaps it felt right using it within the context of the song. Maybe franny's on to something though I suspect the lyrics have far more to do with how Richey viewed himself at that time then how the average prostitute felt.
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Old 27-12-2009, 22:11
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He complained about his self disgust, and she said 'More like self obsession, honey!'. Still, it was a funny quote.
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Old 27-12-2009, 22:19
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He complained about his self disgust, and she said 'More like self obsession, honey!'. Still, it was a funny quote.
Yep that one too (that one's the more common of the two because it was mentioned in 'Everything'), but this was also another bit of "wisdom" given to him by a friend. I'll see if I can remember the source and post, kay?
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Old 29-12-2009, 09:30
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Old 29-12-2009, 09:37
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James on Richey:
It was definitely a conflict between (whispering: 'what happened to him...' ) he wanted to be accepted, but not to have to want acceptance, it was almost like prostituting himself.
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