Forever Delayed - The Independent Manics Forum  

Go Back   Forever Delayed - The Independent Manics Forum > Manic Street Preachers > Manic Street Preachers Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #586  
Old 18-09-2016, 08:10
La_Fouinard's Avatar
La_Fouinard La_Fouinard is offline
I am purity, they call me perverted
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dumfries, Scotland
Age: 42
Posts: 335
Quote:
Originally Posted by IntlDebris View Post
Reading this thread, I noticed the consensus that with these 2CD issues plus Lipstick Traces, it covers everything - but nobody seems to have mentioned that it omits Dead Passive, Hanging On and First Republic.
Actually it omits almost all the b-sides from that era. The reissues seemed to be trying to cover the songs that weren't either released on Lipstick Traces or the 10th anniversary reissues. As almost all the b-sides were on the 10th anniversary edition I think they decided to leave them off this one.

The only reason I think they double dipped for No-one Knows What It's Like to Be Me & Black Garden is they were on the original Japanese release but not on the CD1 of the 2CD reissue which just copied the 10th anniversary CD1.

I was just going through them to re-rip some tracks and I'd forgotten what amazing packages they are, best looking versions of the first 8 albums and so glad I stumped up the money for them at the time.
__________________
Never underestimate the stupidity of people
Reply With Quote
  #587  
Old 18-09-2016, 09:28
IntlDebris IntlDebris is offline
I am purity, they call me perverted
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 304
Yeah - I meant over Lipstick Traces and the Japanese versions, those three tracks are missing. It's just a bit annoying having to get all the mini-LP versions plus the 10th anniversary EMG for completeness.

And yeah, the Japanese really know how to put together a good CD package. I think they still have the healthiest CD sales market in the world, which is no surprise really.
Reply With Quote
  #588  
Old 08-08-2017, 16:05
sculptureofabloke's Avatar
sculptureofabloke sculptureofabloke is offline
Stretched out in the sun
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Manchester
Age: 40
Posts: 14,319
Had the disc 2s of Lifeblood and Send Away The Tigers of these on today, so good. Hope the last four albums get this treatment too. Postcards would be easy enough, tonnes of besides. Journal, I suppose you've got the remixes and Vision Blurred which have never been commercially released on cd. Bit of a struggle to fill a second cd with Rewind The Film and Futurology though.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by allisvanity View Post
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Manics fans, never fucking happy.
Reply With Quote
  #589  
Old 08-08-2017, 16:34
UEF's Avatar
UEF UEF is offline
Doors slowly closing
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: London
Posts: 9,102
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lydia View Post
I think the bloke on the mixing desk was fired after he knocked his drink onto the mixing desk at Notts.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lydia View Post
I imagine it's in the original thread about the gig. I'm not sure if it's true he was fired, just what I've been told. There were definitely big problems, and the band had to go off for a bit.
Funnily enough Sean corroborated this story on the Roadies programme on Radio Wales the other day. Just how much of an insider are you, Lydia?
__________________
V2002 • Move 2003 • V2006 • KoKo 2006 • Culture Show 2007 • Album Chart Show 2007 • XFM 2007 • V2007 • Glastonbury 2007 • Astoria 2007 • London Brixton 2007 • NME Awards 2008 • NME Big Gig 2008 • Forever Heavenly 2008 • Roundhouse 2009 • Forum 2009 • Concert for Care 2009 • XFM Winter Wonderland 2010 • Brixton Academy 2011 • Blackwood Miners Institute 2011 • Roundhouse 2011 • O2 2011 • Rough Trade East 2012 • Shepherds Bush 2013 • Brixton 2014 • Glastonbury 2014 • Rough Trade East 2014 • Acoustic Guitar Show 2014 • London Roundhouse 2014 • Cardiff Castle 2015 • London On Blackheath 2015 • London Royal Albert Hall 2016 • Swansea Liberty Stadium 2016 • Wembley Arena 2018 • Shepherds Bush 2019 • Kingston Pryzm 2021 x2 • Wembley Arena 2021 • Glastonbury 2023 • Alexandra Palace 2024 (40)
Reply With Quote
  #590  
Old 09-08-2017, 12:18
IntlDebris IntlDebris is offline
I am purity, they call me perverted
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 304
Quote:
Originally Posted by sculptureofabloke View Post
Had the disc 2s of Lifeblood and Send Away The Tigers of these on today, so good. Hope the last four albums get this treatment too. Postcards would be easy enough, tonnes of besides. Journal, I suppose you've got the remixes and Vision Blurred which have never been commercially released on cd. Bit of a struggle to fill a second cd with Rewind The Film and Futurology though.
RTF would be pretty tricky indeed, particularly as the first disc would include Death of a Digital Ghost, making CD2 even shorter.

1. Melancholyme
2. T.E. Lawrence on a Bike
3. What Happened to the Blue Generation
4. See it Like Sutherland
5. Show Me the Wonder (Instrumental)
6. Anthem for a Lost Cause (Radio Edit)
7. Tsunami (Live at the O2)
8. She is Suffering (Live at the O2)

At a push, given how many b-sides there were to Postcards, they could maybe shift the National Treasures ones over to RTF (like the TBTGOG b-sides on the Lifeblood second disc), thus including This is the Day, Rock'n'Roll Genius, We Were Never Told, This is the Day (Acoustic) and This is the Day (Instrumental), which would move it up to a somewhat respectable 13 track CD.

This would still leave Postcards with a sizeable bonus selection:
CD1:
1-12 Album
13. Red Rubber
14. Evidence Against Myself

CD2:
1. I'm Leaving You for Solitude
2. Distractions
3. Ostopolitik
4. Lost Voices
5. I Know the Numbers
6. Broken Up Again
7. Time Ain't Nothing
8. Slow Reflections / Strange Delays
9. The Passing Show
10. Inky Fingers
11. Engage With Your Shadow
12. Kiss My Eyes for Eternity
13. Midnight Sun
14. Some Kind Of Nothingness (BBC Live Version)
15. Masses Against The Classes (Live From Newport Centre)
16. Sleepflower (Live From Manchester Apollo)
17. Yes (Live From Manchester Apollo)
18. This Joke Sport Severed (Live At Wolverhampton Civic Hall)
19. Peeled Apples (Live At Wolverhampton Civic Hall)
20. Marlon J.D. (Live At Belfast Ulster Hall)
21. Faster (Live at iTunes Festival)
22. Autumn Song (Live at iTunes Festival)
23. Life Becoming A Landslide (Live at iTunes Festival)
24. The Everlasting (Live at iTunes Festival)

Much like SATT, this would improve the album massively.


Futurology should be fairly simple though:

CD1:
1-13. Album
14. Antisocialmanifesto
15. Kodawari
16. Ocean Spray (Live At The O2)
17. You Love Us (Live At The O2)

CD2:
1. Blistered Mirrors
2. Empty Motorcade
3. The Last Time I Saw Paris
4. The Sound Of Detachment
5. Caldey
6. Futurology (Radio Edit)
7. Futurology (R. Seiliog Remix)
8. Europa Geht Durch Mich (Erol Alkan's Mesmerise Eins Rework)
9. Europa Geht Durch Mich (Erol Alkan's Mesmerise Zwei Rework)
10. Walk Me To The Bridge (Live From Ancienne Belgique, Brussels)
11. Faster (Live At The O2)
12. Kevin Carter (Live At The O2)
13. Motown Junk (Live At The O2)
14. Slash N Burn (Live At The O2)
15. Motorcycle Emptiness (Live At The O2)
16. Theme From M*A*S*H (Suicide Is Painless) (Live At The O2)
17. Postcards From A Young Man (Live At The O2)
18. You Stole The Sun From My Heart (Live At The O2)
Reply With Quote
  #591  
Old 16-08-2017, 10:43
sculptureofabloke's Avatar
sculptureofabloke sculptureofabloke is offline
Stretched out in the sun
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Manchester
Age: 40
Posts: 14,319
Quote:
Originally Posted by IntlDebris View Post
RTF would be pretty tricky indeed, particularly as the first disc would include Death of a Digital Ghost, making CD2 even shorter.

1. Melancholyme
2. T.E. Lawrence on a Bike
3. What Happened to the Blue Generation
4. See it Like Sutherland
5. Show Me the Wonder (Instrumental)
6. Anthem for a Lost Cause (Radio Edit)
7. Tsunami (Live at the O2)
8. She is Suffering (Live at the O2)

At a push, given how many b-sides there were to Postcards, they could maybe shift the National Treasures ones over to RTF (like the TBTGOG b-sides on the Lifeblood second disc), thus including This is the Day, Rock'n'Roll Genius, We Were Never Told, This is the Day (Acoustic) and This is the Day (Instrumental), which would move it up to a somewhat respectable 13 track CD.
Fair point about the There By The Grace of God b-sides shuffling onto Lifeblood, might've made more sense to shuffle em onto Know Your Enemy if anything. That said, the Japanese issue of Lipstick Traces has God Save The Manics on it... Lifeblood and Tigers had live stuff that was unreleased as far as I know too, so maybe they'd do that again. Or maybe they'd make no real effort to expand, like the Holy Bible one. Would've been nice to have had the live Life Becoming A Landslide from the Revol 10", and the acoustic She Is Suffering that was released all over Europe..

Quote:
Originally Posted by IntlDebris View Post
Futurology should be fairly simple though:

CD1:
1-13. Album
14. Antisocialmanifesto
15. Kodawari
16. Ocean Spray (Live At The O2)
17. You Love Us (Live At The O2)

CD2:
1. Blistered Mirrors
2. Empty Motorcade
3. The Last Time I Saw Paris
4. The Sound Of Detachment
5. Caldey
6. Futurology (Radio Edit)
7. Futurology (R. Seiliog Remix)
8. Europa Geht Durch Mich (Erol Alkan's Mesmerise Eins Rework)
9. Europa Geht Durch Mich (Erol Alkan's Mesmerise Zwei Rework)
10. Walk Me To The Bridge (Live From Ancienne Belgique, Brussels)
11. Faster (Live At The O2)
12. Kevin Carter (Live At The O2)
13. Motown Junk (Live At The O2)
14. Slash N Burn (Live At The O2)
15. Motorcycle Emptiness (Live At The O2)
16. Theme From M*A*S*H (Suicide Is Painless) (Live At The O2)
17. Postcards From A Young Man (Live At The O2)
18. You Stole The Sun From My Heart (Live At The O2)
Can't be much of that O2 gig left unrealsed, confused why they didn't just put the whole thing out.

I keep saying "they", I don't know who put these together, don't know how much of a say the band had in any of em or owt..
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by allisvanity View Post
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Manics fans, never fucking happy.
Reply With Quote
  #592  
Old 16-08-2017, 16:07
IntlDebris IntlDebris is offline
I am purity, they call me perverted
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 304
Quote:
Originally Posted by sculptureofabloke View Post
Can't be much of that O2 gig left unrealsed, confused why they didn't just put the whole thing out.
Because it makes for great filler and Japanese bonus tracks!
Reply With Quote
  #593  
Old 30-09-2017, 16:43
Comrade Mike's Avatar
Comrade Mike Comrade Mike is offline
An imitation of dignity
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 95
The Masses Against the Class, A Design for Life, Empty Souls, (It's Not War) Just the End of Love and From Despair to Where (all live from the O2) should also be on the RTF second disc. If we're including NT stuff as well, there's also the bizarre acoustic blues version of Love's Sweet Exile.

I'd also shift the JFPL live tracks from PFAYM to their respective album, since a second disc for that would consist of, what, Vision Blurred and the acoustic version of the title track? Could probably fit the remixes on too.
Reply With Quote
  #594  
Old 01-10-2017, 09:12
Glyn Glyn is offline
Freed from the century
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 710
Quote:
Originally Posted by Comrade Mike View Post
I'd also shift the JFPL live tracks from PFAYM to their respective album, since a second disc for that would consist of, what, Vision Blurred and the acoustic version of the title track? Could probably fit the remixes on too.
Not much else but you can add Primitive Painters and the Alien Orders/Invisible Armies instrumental too.
Reply With Quote
  #595  
Old 02-10-2017, 10:36
IntlDebris IntlDebris is offline
I am purity, they call me perverted
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 304
The remix album would be a decent bulk of the second disc on its own.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 19:56.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.