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Old 16-01-2011, 06:21
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sister albums ?

Have been thinking about this during the cricket so bare with me here.
If this has been covered before you have my apologies.

The manics seem to have a certain symmetry with their albums, nearly every album has a sister
Generation terrorists = know your enemy
Gold against the soul ?
Holy bible = journal for plague lovers
Everything must go = send away the tigers / Postcards from a young man
this is my truth tell me yours = lifeblood
This theory seems to fall apart for gats and the emg triplets.
It seems they may be sub consciously remaking the same albums what do you think have i got something here or should i have gone to bed a long time ago?

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Old 16-01-2011, 06:52
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yeah, i've been up with our one year old watching cricket too, so bearing with you.

as tired as you, so also bear with me.

GATS = Postcards. both came after "fan" loved albums (GT / JFPL for those of you who are not keeping up) and, for different reasons, sound like albums from a band trying to "establish themselves".

EMG = SATT in regards of commercial success and indeed keeping the band alive. EMG was them "coming back" as a three piece; SATT was them "coming back" after apparently a possible split was a reality after the commercial shortcomings of LB.
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Old 16-01-2011, 07:01
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Ah! I've pondered this sort of thing myself before, the arrangement looks agreeable to me (with starstruck's additional GATS -> PFAYM and EMG -> SATT), apart from I'm not sure about GT -> KYE, hmm...
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Old 16-01-2011, 07:40
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GT = KYE

not in terms of quality or fan favourite songs, for sure, but in defence of slightly delayed both albums won the band a significant amount of fans and got them a great deal of press attention.

you could argue a case that both albums "suffer" from some production issues to - what happened to the bass on GT, for instance, and KYE's "interesting" production has been discussed before.

both are also a couple of tracks too long......
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Old 17-01-2011, 01:02
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GT = KYE makes a bit of sense. I remember a lot of talk about going back to their roots while they were making KYE. That said, I also remember Nicky saying that Lifeblood was The Holy Bible for 30 year olds.
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Old 17-01-2011, 13:08
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I would say that JFPL is more of a sister to GATS than THB. Ignore the chronology and listen to the sound.
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Old 17-01-2011, 13:18
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@UEF - listen to the sound? done. it's ripped off SATT. so SATT, JFPL and PFAYM are sister albums and JFPL is the prettiest one.

I agree with KYE and GT, the idea of recording both albums was the same 'let's write as many songs as possible, record them all despite repeating ourselves all the time'
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Old 17-01-2011, 16:59
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Personally I feel that:

GT, THB & JFPL should be grouped together
EMG and Lifeblood
GATS and SATT
TIMY and Postcard

...with Know Your Enemy being a bit of an anomaly, though who knows 77 Songs of Fear and Hatred sounds possibly as inconsistent as KYE (I just hopes it's a bit better).

I would define the eras in the same order as:

Rebellion
Catharsis
Lost
Wallowing

But I'm mainly a fan of the first two eras listed so maybe other fans who love these albums might find a better description than Lost and Wallowing.
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