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Old 23-11-2017, 01:38
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@ non-UK fans: do you feel ignored?

I think it's quite a serious issue to be honest, the latest example being obviously the ticket presale. But there were many other occasions when we were ignored / let down / excluded.

Let's share our experience!
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Old 23-11-2017, 02:39
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They are a british band...it happens.
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Old 23-11-2017, 08:37
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Ticket presale could have been open for non-UK residents, I can't see the problem with that.
But on the other side: tickets won't sell out quickly. Only 17000 views on the youtube so far for the album teaser, of which probably 400 of me It means nobody seems to care, so tickets won't sell out that soon.
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Old 23-11-2017, 10:17
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Not really. They do play in Denmark quite often for a British band...
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Old 23-11-2017, 10:27
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I get it must be frustrating to feel like you're ignored, but to be fair they're a UK band who made their name in the UK and live in the UK, and maybe have more fans in the UK than in the rest of the world so it stands to reason that they'll focus on the UK. Whatever the band does and wherever, it's got to be viable, and the last couple of US tours were done at a loss out of their own pockets. Not sure too many other bands would do summat like that.

Whoever the hell has been behind the decision that pre-sale was for UK customers only, I have no idea why they came to that. Pretty sure the band for the most part don't give a shit where any of us are from, and probably even feel a bit of pride and love when they see someone wearing a US tour t-shirt rocking up at Llandudno, or someone wearing a UK tour t-shirt in Japan or whatever.
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Old 23-11-2017, 11:33
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It’s clearly a legal issue. Pre-sales be it for tickets or albums are about getting our data. The fact that the tickets were non-purchase necessary with regards to the album and you just had to input your info confirms this. All about the contact details and no doubt selling them on.
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Old 23-11-2017, 13:00
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I think they played Europe more often than Northern Ireland these days, can't remember the last time I saw a listing for Belfast around here.
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Old 23-11-2017, 14:59
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Ignored is too strong a description, but I am definitely resigned to them touring neighbouring countries (Denmark, Sweden, Finland) but not the one I happen to live in (Norway).
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And what about their youtube videos?
It was mentioned before that a lot of ManicStPreachersVEVO videos are blocked in Canada (and the US I think?). It's something trivial, but still annoying.


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and maybe have more fans in the UK than in the rest of the world so it stands to reason that they'll focus on the UK.
They focus on the UK because they have more fans there, but because they focus on the UK, they have fewer and fewer fans elsewhere...
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I mentioned that in another thread, usagainstyou. I wanted to share a Tolerate video with a few folks and used the Jools Holland live one. The original does not work in Canada.
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Old 23-11-2017, 20:22
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As it was mentioned, they are a UK band, so they care more for their UK fans. However, in albums like TIMTTMY and EMG they had european success so they have played also in EU (see EMG tour last year). I expect a TIMTTMY anniversary tour in autumn 2018, so EU will get its chance to see them. For the new album, I predict EU summer festival appearances. As far as I'm concerned, I bought a ticket for the Manchester gig!!!
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All bands concentrate their efforts where they're most popular. No one is being ignored it's just the way it is.. they play festivals to reach as many people as possible .. a US/Canada tour would be very expensive.
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They are a british band...it happens.
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I get it must be frustrating to feel like you're ignored, but to be fair they're a UK band who made their name in the UK and live in the UK.
Welsh. Live in Wales

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I think they played Europe more often than Northern Ireland these days, can't remember the last time I saw a listing for Belfast around here.
2013

Though James has Belfast 1998 gig down as one of his favourite gigs ever - they heard If You Tolerate had gone in at no.1

Guess they just don't like revisiting too many happy memories hey

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Ignored is too strong a description, but I am definitely resigned to them touring neighbouring countries (Denmark, Sweden, Finland) but not the one I happen to live in (Norway).
Have you considered moving?

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All bands concentrate their efforts where they're most popular. No one is being ignored it's just the way it is.. they play festivals to reach as many people as possible .. a US/Canada tour would be very expensive.
It probably is part expense, part popularity/demand....don't think it's anything personal on the part of the band...they'd seem to be happy to travel more going on this interview with John 'Kill Your Friends' Niven http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...p-1811480.html
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They focus on the UK because they have more fans there, but because they focus on the UK, they have fewer and fewer fans elsewhere...
There are reasons why they, or any other band have fewer fans elsewhere. Even from town to city rather than country to country. Take a song like A Design For Life, it's been widely spoken of by fans and the band themselves of it being a very British song, the song and the video capturing a time and a mood and while I can't really put my finger on it I feel it. And I presume this is why they always close with Tolerate rather than Design on the continent.

There can't be many bands who've been as big as Manics have in the UK and got nowhere over the pond. Don't think it's for lack of effort really, Generation Terrorists and Holy Bible were both fucked about with for the North American market, there were tours for Generation Terrorists, Everything Must Go and This Is My Truth, would've been one for Holy Bible. Just didn't work out for them.

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Welsh. Live in Wales

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I thought Sean lived in Bristol?
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