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Old 23-11-2017, 23:55
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Yeah, maybe a little bit ignored, but I don't really expect them to travel the globe if they don't feel like this anymore. Travelling is tiring, especially when that's what you've been doing all your adult youth life.

As for tickets and sales. It would definitely be better if world-wide fans were included a bit more, but maybe they just don't wanna bother with international laws and currencies and taxes and so on. It can get complicated.
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Old 24-11-2017, 00:34
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.. a US/Canada tour would be very expensive.
Being a fan in Canada is very expensive too

- plane tickets if you want to see them live - for example £600 or more for a return flight to London + hotel + taxi/bus/train + concert ticket = £1000 / person (Some of you said that £50 for a concert ticket is expensive. Imagine having to pay £1000 for the same thing )

- high shipping costs if you order something online
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Old 24-11-2017, 00:34
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I thought Sean lived in Bristol?
Gateway to Wales though isn't it?

Take Me to The Bridge (to Wales)....original title (hem)

Apparently one of the most common questions typed into Google about Bristol is 'Is it in Wales'......Sean must spend a lot of time on Google
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Old 24-11-2017, 04:10
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That isn't a contradiction. They are a UK band.
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Old 24-11-2017, 09:01
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That isn't a contradiction. They are a UK band.
Ah but UK identities are a mix of contradictions. As much one thinks, being from the UK does not mean you're British (very prevalent issue in Northern Ireland). The UK is a civic state rather than an ethic state, so ethnic identities have to be claimed rather than bestowed.

When it comes to the band, they are very much Welsh, it's the Welsh flag on Nicky's amp, not the union jack.
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Old 24-11-2017, 09:13
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I don't believe the band's identity/world view is being discussed - the fact is that their physical location is the UK. Wales AND England.
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Old 24-11-2017, 09:23
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The conversation was started when someone defined them as a British band, not simply stating they live in Britain. I myself live in Great Britain but do not call myself British. There is a prevailing habit of calling things from the UK and Ireland, 'British'. I can't count how many times I've seen actors from the Republic of Ireland, called British by English media. The usage of the term British to anything within the pre 1922 United Kingdom is incredibly annoying to those who don't claim that identity.
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Old 24-11-2017, 09:52
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In the early 90s I was a Manics fan in Australia, which was a bit of a lonely experience as they were very very rarely played on the radio or their videos on TV. I spent hours scouring Perth record stores for imports, and it pained me to miss out on tours. But I never felt any grudge against the band for not coming to a place where no one had heard of them. And to be honest, I still don't see any problem with that now. There's nothing wrong with prioritising your home audience.

I may have a bit of an unusual perspective on this though, because I basically moved to London in 1996 in order to be closer to my favourite bands! I realise this may not be an option for everyone, but it's really the best solution to the problem
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Old 24-11-2017, 09:53
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The pre-sale ticket thing is way too stupid... and the last in a string of treating fans abroad badly.
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The conversation was started when someone defined them as a British band, not simply stating they live in Britain. I myself live in Great Britain but do not call myself British. There is a prevailing habit of calling things from the UK and Ireland, 'British'. I can't count how many times I've seen actors from the Republic of Ireland, called British by English media. The usage of the term British to anything within the pre 1922 United Kingdom is incredibly annoying to those who don't claim that identity.
I'm sure the conversation starter didn't mean to cause any offence .. you can't expect everyone around the world to be experts in the intricacies of British or not identities. The manics ARE a UK band because Wales is still part of the UK and they hold UK passports. I've only ever heard them complain when they're called English, and they have a right to complain because they're not .
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Old 24-11-2017, 14:31
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Exactly, which gives them a british nationality....next....
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Old 24-11-2017, 15:15
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Have you considered moving?
Moving to be closer to a band's potential tour schedule probably wouldn't be the wisest life choice.

I can always travel to Britain or other nearby countries if I am desperate to see them on tour, anyway. Hence me saying I don't feel particularly 'ignored'.

EDIT: I just aw Blackflower's response on this topic. Fair play to you for doing just that.
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Old 24-11-2017, 16:34
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EDIT: I just aw Blackflower's response on this topic. Fair play to you for doing just that.
I do realise I am lucky as I have British, Canadian, and Australian nationality, so it's easier for me to move between those countries than for many other people. I was also 21 at the time and had no ties or responsibilities, and all I really wanted was to be in London, so that's what I did! For people who have responsibilities with family and so on it would of course be a much more reckless decision to make.
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Old 24-11-2017, 16:41
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Lol I doubt Raven was entirely serious.
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Old 24-11-2017, 19:08
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Lol I doubt Raven was entirely serious.
Completely serious.

Absolutely.

You should all move to Wales. Or Bristol. Which is almost Wales.

And Takk give it up they are Welsh

Brits?? An occupying force
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