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Old 20-01-2009, 13:24
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When was this song actually recorded?..

I know this song was written back in late 94, but when was the "Official" version layed down?

I take it the version that was released on the Holy Bible DVD etc wasnt the original version?..

Anyone have any info on this?

Also, has anyone ever heard the original demo?
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Old 06-09-2009, 10:17
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Old 06-09-2009, 10:39
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As far as I can recall it was said at the time of the Lipstick Traces release that Judge Yr'self was the unfinished version recorded in 1994 but it had been given a 'techno remix' by Sean.
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I've always wondered this myself. I know it was apparently written about 94 time but I've always been under the impression that it was actually recorded in time for Lipstick Traces, although James' vocals do sound like they could have been from 94 as he's screaming pretty well in the recording
But who knows. Someone ask the Manics!!!
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Old 06-09-2009, 12:57
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Thought it was meant for the judge dread soundtrack? but after richey disappeared they decided to leave it.
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Old 06-09-2009, 13:12
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I've always wondered this myself. I know it was apparently written about 94 time but I've always been under the impression that it was actually recorded in time for Lipstick Traces, although James' vocals do sound like they could have been from 94 as he's screaming pretty well in the recording
But who knows. Someone ask the Manics!!!
James' vocals sound like how the did around the time of Lipstick Traces up until now - his more 'mature' sound as I think of it. So I just assumed they used the music from 1994, maybe added a bit here and there, and James did new vocals. Like for Take the Skinheads Bowling.
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Old 06-09-2009, 15:00
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I always thought it sounded pure '94.
Would be interested to be proved wrong, though...
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Old 29-12-2009, 13:38
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I was just about to ask the same question for no apparent reason other than I just listened to it...

I think James has (mercifully) looked after his 'chords' so that it's actually hard to distinguish whether his vocals were recorded in early 95 or 03, although I'd hedge a bet on the latter. Still a demo was recorded wasn't it? So perhaps some of the original recording was polished and added to to create the Lipstick Traces version. Would love to hear the original tho, with Richey on guitar of course
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Old 29-12-2009, 13:50
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James' vocals sound like how the did around the time of Lipstick Traces up until now - his more 'mature' sound as I think of it. So I just assumed they used the music from 1994, maybe added a bit here and there, and James did new vocals. Like for Take the Skinheads Bowling.
Yeah, it's definitely JDB's fat voice.

My belief (as a cynic) is that the track we've heard was all recorded for Lipstick Traces. They also used to say they had a song called Alien Orders/Invisible Armies in the vaults but then recorded a completely new song under that title this year. Then there's that Anniversary To No One track they supposedly did for TIMTTMY. You never know, they might actually record a song called that one day.
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Old 29-12-2009, 15:13
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the video for this song is one of my favourites
i love the bit where richey walks past in a hat and his blue sailor suit, he looks happy
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James' vocals sound like how the did around the time of Lipstick Traces up until now - his more 'mature' sound as I think of it. So I just assumed they used the music from 1994, maybe added a bit here and there, and James did new vocals. Like for Take the Skinheads Bowling.
Yeah, I was under the same impression as this. New vocals, basically the same music, perhaps beefed up a bit and mixed properly.
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I get the feeling it was re-recorded for LT, based on the rather nerdy fact that the snare used on the recording isn't the one which Sean used throughout the THB era.
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Old 29-12-2009, 16:43
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I get the feeling it was re-recorded for LT, based on the rather nerdy fact that the snare used on the recording isn't the one which Sean used throughout the THB era.
it was recorded as demo in the January 1995 sessions, so maybe they used different equipment? Not sure though!
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it was recorded as demo in the January 1995 sessions, so maybe they used different equipment? Not sure though!
lets just hope that if there is a recording of this from 1995, it surfaces sometime in the future. I also want to hear a demo of faster, as i remember hearing james it took something like 94 recordings to get it just right. would love to hear the first version!! hopefully he doesnt sound like he is singing "VULTUREEE" instead of "BUTCHER"
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Old 29-12-2009, 16:52
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yeah who the hell got hold of the 1985-1989 Demos????

Must have been risky if it was pinched, or lucky if found in a skip!
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