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Old 14-09-2021, 14:54
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Top 10 Non-Album Tracks: 2010 (PFAYM) - 2021 (TUVL)

What are your ranked top 10 non-album tracks (b-sides, bonus tracks, demos etc) of the "modern" Manics era from PFAYM onwards?

No live versions of album tracks allowed, for "don't be so obvious" reasons.
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Old 14-09-2021, 14:56
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Here's mine to get us started:

10. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
9. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
8. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
7. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
6. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
5. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
4. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
3. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
2. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
1. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
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Old 14-09-2021, 19:35
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Here's mine to get us started:

10. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
9. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
8. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
7. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
6. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
5. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
4. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
3. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
2. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
1. Together Stronger (C'mon Wales)
I'm sure you'll forgive me if i read this as a bit of low level trolling after a multi-year absence and given your opinion about their new album.
It's what sometimes happens with former active members, they come back to either hawk their manics stuff on ebay or engage in a bit of tomfoolery!
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Old 14-09-2021, 14:56
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Cranking out top-quality threads like a boss mate! I love it.

(And shall return and edit this post with an actual on-topic list later)(Edit: No I'm not, I'm posting it later in thread now!)
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Old 14-09-2021, 15:02
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In no particular order

Empty Motorcade
Red Rubber
Together Stronger
Distractions
The Sound of Detachment
I Know the Numbers
A Soundtrack to Complete Withdrawal
The Last Time I Saw Paris
I’m Leaving You for Solitude
Blistered Mirrors
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Old 14-09-2021, 21:15
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1. Engage with Your Shadow

2-10 in no particular order.
Empty Motorcade
Red Rubber
The Sound of Detachment
Caldey
Broken Up Again
Inky Fingers
Ostopolitik
The Last Time I Saw Paris
I’m Leaving You for Solitude


Seriously PFAYM has the best b-sides, I had to throttle myself from chucking them all on here.
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Old 14-09-2021, 21:24
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Seriously PFAYM has the best b-sides, I had to throttle myself from chucking them all on here.
Like SATT, I think they were relegating a lot of the more interesting material to the b-sides because it didn't fit the album ethos, but if they had flipped things around and pursued the direction of the b-sides for the main album, I think a lot of people's opinions on those two albums would be much warmer (and I like PFAYM).

I generally feel a bit extra warm towards the Postcards b-sides because they were the first CD singles the band released after I had moved to the UK, and I was giddy at the thought of finally being able to buy their singles with ease. Bought all the bundles and spent a lot of time with those b-sides.
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Old 14-09-2021, 21:52
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Seriously PFAYM has the best b-sides, I had to throttle myself from chucking them all on here.
Preach. Such a good album hiding in there.

I attempted this but couldn't limit it to 10. Sorry not sorry.
Also in no particular order:

Broken up again
Kiss my eyes for eternity
I'm leaving you for solitude
I know the numbers
Empty motorcade
T.e. lawrence on a bike
Concrete fields
What happened to the blue generation
Time ain't nothing
Blistered mirrors
Holding patterns
Red rubber
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A gray disk, the colour of Chiba sky.
Now -
Disk beginning to rotate, faster, becoming a sphere of paler gray. Expanding -
And flowed, flowered for him, fluid neon origami trick, the unfolding of his distanceless home, his country, transparent 3D chessboard extending to infinity.
Inner eye opening to the stepped scarlet pyramid of the Eastern Seaboard Fission Authority burning beyond the green cubes of Mitsubishi Bank of America,
and high and very far away he saw the spiral arms of military systems, forever beyond his reach.
And somewhere he was laughing, in a white-painted loft, distant fingers caressing the deck, tears of release streaking his face.
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Old 14-09-2021, 21:55
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Preach. Such a good album hiding in there.

I attempted this but couldn't limit it to 10. Sorry not sorry.
Also in no particular order:

Broken up again
Kiss my eyes for eternity
I'm leaving you for solitude
I know the numbers
Empty motorcade
T.e. lawrence on a bike
Concrete fields
What happened to the blue generation
Time ain't nothing
Blistered mirrors
Holding patterns
Red rubber
Are there any good rips of TE Lawrence on a Bike and What Happened to the Blue Generation?
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Old 14-09-2021, 22:05
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What I love about PFAYM b-sides is that they sound like they were composed in an environment where every idea is given the go ahead because they were never going on the album anyway. It also off James utterly workman approach to music making. I'm pretty sure if you gave him 10 lyrics a gave him a day to make an album, it would be pretty good and interesting albeit a bit rough.
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Old 14-09-2021, 23:24
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All right!

1. My Drowned World -- stellar chorus, one of the best nicky songs ever, almost as good as Dying Breeds
2. Empty Motorcade -- biggest chorus of its era, best representation of the sound if its era; weirdest omission ever that it's not on the album
3. Red Rubber -- all around incredible song, very well handled subject material, the start of JDB's fruitful experimentation with multi-rhythmic segments, a super catchy riff I've been whistling for the last 10 years
4. Kiss My Eyes For Eternity -- pure 24 carat gold, their own Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You, it kills me these songs are not on albums... fuck it's even got a solid middle 8 followed by a great little solo and the piano reminds be of Suede Sci-Fi Lullabies b-sides
5. Ostpolitik -- When the piano riff kicks in its pure bliss for me, very special vibes, great name too, somehow illustrates it perfectly, one of their best instrumentals, a small and compact piece of subtle joys; I feel if this got lyrics it coulda been even amazinger
6. What Happened To The Blue Generation? -- this song is sad as fuck, the story of their youthful fantasy of being the blue generation that changes everything... nice sound, nice everything, I listened to this a lot and now it makes me sad to think about it. sound's a little b-sidey but not bad
7. Midnight Sun -- technically a KYE b-side, but still. a sadly unfinished and amazing song. incredible feeling in JDB's voice during that era. reminds me of (the also amazing) Just A Kid
8. Holding Patterns -- good chorus on this one, pretty japanese feeling melody, topped off by a TOWERING guitar solo, verse lyrics a little week, but not a big problem.
9. T.E. Lawrence On A Bike -- wackiest thing they've ever recorded, sounds like its (perfect!) title. Love it! T.E. Lawrence on a fuckin bike, mate. story of my life
10. Caldey -- very very good verses, rhythmically strong bouncy feeling, let down by a slightly less stellar chorus; still good stuff, nice lyrics too, a little foreshadowing of TUVL sound even

Honourable mentions:

Last Time I Saw Paris -- also good, but it doesn't feel like a manics song, honestly.
Broken Up Again -- sounds a bit like Empty Souls but lacks that Lifeblood sheen, and for some reason doesn't reach me emotionally (though I usually love this kind of stuff.)
Concrete Fields -- nice going but a little too "joke song" for me, Nicky sounds hilariously old with his municipal worries, an octagenerian is hipper than this (which is good, but somehow the jokeyness keeps it from reaching my heart; another foreshadowing of TUVL "parents record collection" sounds though
Mirror Gaze -- cool shit but the sound's a little busy/cramped in the chorus
Hold Me Like A Heaven (Public Service Broadcasting & Warm Digits remixes) -- best remixes of the decade for them. honourable remix mentions both. thanks for ppls in this thread for suggesting them. hadn't even heard them!

All and all incredible music. I've enjoyed listening to these more than did RTF, RIF, PFAYM, and about as much as Futurology and TUVL

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Old 16-09-2021, 12:06
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Preach. Such a good album hiding in there.

I attempted this but couldn't limit it to 10. Sorry not sorry.
Also in no particular order:

Broken up again
Kiss my eyes for eternity
I'm leaving you for solitude
I know the numbers
Empty motorcade
T.e. lawrence on a bike
Concrete fields
What happened to the blue generation
Time ain't nothing
Blistered mirrors
Holding patterns
Red rubber
I love "T. E. Lawrence On A Bike" so much! What a great b-side!
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Old 14-09-2021, 14:57
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It's self-serving. I want you lot to sift through 10 years of material for the gems rather than do it myself
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Blimey - SATT is old Manics now?
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I figure if it's old enough to have had a commemorative rerelease, yes it is
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