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22-10-2007, 22:10
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 I often struggle with interpreting lyrics but tom me it seems entirely obvious that MATC is addressed to old/hardcore fans. Who else could lines like "Success is an ugly word / Especially in your tiny world" be aimed at? I do love the song but mainly on musical grounds...
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23-10-2007, 09:20
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It's You Love Us part two - around the time they first played it was when the NME & music press had a big Manics backlash because they reckoned the Manics had become boring & just another band. Also that some of TIMTTMY sounded defeatist and like they'd lost it.
Most of it's a sarcastic response to the music press, some of it like the 'our hate is yours to feed upon' is a call-to-arms aimed at getting the fans. Anyone remember the 'Too Many Festivals' t-shirts from summer 1999? Same sort of sarcasm.
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25-07-2009, 02:56
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The fans/Press/Richey, IMO.
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25-07-2009, 02:58
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its aimed at rich people who never have to seriously contemplate what its really like to be broke
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25-07-2009, 03:10
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Aaaand the press
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25-07-2009, 08:46
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to be honest I don't like analysing the lyrics by myself, only to read the interpretations by the others
 and Masses was one of my very first favourite songs by the Manics 
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26-07-2009, 12:12
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"We love the winter, it brings us closer together"
Winter tours... playing to the real fans who are in the front row, not the 'mondeo crowd'?
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26-07-2009, 13:14
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Tis a bit of an up yours to the critics of This Is My Truth but also it seems a broader dig as well at the cultish fans and the endless questions they were still getting as to why they continued/should they have continued/was it not disrespectful to continue (tired of giving a reason when the future is what we believe in.) There's always that thing as to whether or not you can keep your integrity and be very successful, achieve fame ... they've sounded a lot more commercial/accessible from This is my truth onwards and they were slated for that but (Can you feel like it was before or are you lost for evermore) ... people needed to stop judging them in terms of some imagined what could have been - cos it couldn't have been anyway, it couldn't have continued down The Holy Bible road had Richey stayed, he wouldn't have been well enough to ... messed up & dead on alcohol down that route.
Anyway masses against the classes - taking the side of the majority over the elite, welcoming the success and up yours to the snobby petty criticisms and I love that line 'We love the winter, it brings us closer together' - it's like revelling in the being pushed out into the cold - freeze us out and we'll just draw closer together against the cold, we'll become stronger
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27-07-2009, 02:25
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"We're the only thing left to believe in" - I like to think it's asking why they were having to respond to so much criticism when all the other bands are shit compared to them and got an easy ride
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27-07-2009, 08:52
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The line "we thought you were our friends" is pathetic though! Makes me think of Nicky having a tantrum. "boo-hoo, they said naughty things about TIMT!"
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27-07-2009, 15:05
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I wonder how it would've done if it hadnt been the first single after TIMTTMY. Many bought it on faith I'd guess..especially as it was a limited release. I like the song but I wouldn't put it in my Best Of. Don't think its much cop as a number 1 and almost always forget it reached the top spot. I prefer it live i guess but if they booted it off the setlist forever i wouldnt care really
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27-07-2009, 16:34
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But of course there's the reassurance at the beginning, before the fans think they are being completely blasted: "...We're still so in love with you, and yes we mean it too..."
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