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Old 14-07-2014, 21:18
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Am I the only person who thought the Manics were doing a duet with stewie griffin from family guy before checking the album sleeve???
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Old 14-07-2014, 23:54
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Beautiful track, stunning melodies
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Old 15-07-2014, 18:06
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I like the song, but do they really sing "hatred and failure"? Sounds more like "hatred and viagra".
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Old 15-07-2014, 22:34
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A highlight of the album for me. I've never been a massive fan of Green's voice but I think it works well here. I like the melancholy feel to it, when I first heard it I thought of 'I Live To Fall Asleep'. Also the guitar chords in the intro remind me of Athlete, weirdly.
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Old 16-07-2014, 02:45
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A highlight of the album for me. I've never been a massive fan of Green's voice but I think it works well here. I like the melancholy feel to it, when I first heard it I thought of 'I Live To Fall Asleep'. Also the guitar chords in the intro remind me of Athlete, weirdly.
Mine too. It gets the most replays for me

Also in melodic terms it reminds me of 'Black Holes For the Young'...just because of how hugely powerful the harmonising is and just the sheer brilliance of the songwriting
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Old 16-07-2014, 13:47
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Also in melodic terms it reminds me of 'Black Holes For the Young'...just because of how hugely powerful the harmonising is and just the sheer brilliance of the songwriting
The incessant Black Holes For the Young propaganda on these boards has finally reached its target. I sent it on a spin and yes, oh lord, I never did realise how grand that last minute is. If it weren't a wonky duet, it would absolutely rip on the last half of TIMTTY.

Futurology is going strong. Been listening to it since it came out and not a single problem yet. I do agree DAC(H) is less exciting now, but I still love it where it is, as a centerpiece, for sheer grandeur's sake. On the flipside, the opening - Futurology and especially WMTTB - are immensely enjoyable. And the extra tracks section is also really fun. God damn Anti Social Manifesto is an unexpected earworm.
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Old 16-07-2014, 14:02
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Black Holes For The Young and Prologue To History... Just think of the album TIMTTMY could have been!
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Old 16-07-2014, 14:51
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They were indeed both meant to be singles weren't they?

Artistically it probably was a waisted opportunity, but then that particular album and its singles sold pissloads so I guess they can't complain.
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Old 16-07-2014, 15:10
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Black Holes For The Young and Prologue To History... Just think of the album TIMTTMY could have been!
We are way off topic here, but yeah, the album does need at least two spikier breathers inbetween the (admittedly stunning) sub-oceanic dirge of it's first half, so as not to bury the listener, as it does. It's not easy to sequence that stuff in there, though. I guess they felt it flows better as a more homogenous piece.
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Old 16-07-2014, 15:48
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They were indeed both meant to be singles weren't they?
The rumour at the time (prior to and around the time of if you tolerate this's release and that went around the manics fan convention in London in the summer of 98) was that Black Holes for The Young was supposed to be an album track but Sophie Ellis Bextor went blabbing to all and sundry about it and the band or the record company got annoyed and decided to pull the track.

According to Nicky Prologue to History was meant to be on the album but he decided to pull it in order to make the album have 13 songs. He said it was something to do with breaking a jinx/making a point that they could have hit album with 13 songs despite the holy bible having flopped with 13 songs.

I don't think anyone actually asked why he didn't just pull born a girl...

The Black Holes story should probably be taken with a pinch of salt but it could have happened as there was quite a lot of hype at the time about it and some said that she was trying to use the hype to help 'TheAudience' rather than the manics. Of course the supposed story behind prologue would make that less likely with regard to Nicky wanting 13 songs.

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Old 16-07-2014, 16:22
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I heard Be Natural was meant to be the first single?
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Old 20-07-2014, 12:03
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Am I the only person who thought the Manics were doing a duet with stewie griffin from family guy before checking the album sleeve???
When I first read your post I was like, "Wtf, how does that sound like Stewie?!". Since then, every time the song comes on I crack up when I hear the "I'm well aware of hapinessss" opening line!

I can't unhear this now, but I thank you for bringing a bit of comedy to my listening experience of the track!
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Old 21-07-2014, 18:52
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Love this. From the first listen it just stuck in my head. I've always loved Green and his voice so this is like a double hit with James as well. I'd love to hear this on tour. The demo is great as well.
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Old 22-07-2014, 15:26
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I really like it; even though watching Scritti Polliti support the Manics at the Brixton gigs was a pretty painful experience, I don't mind Green Gartside on this. But tbh the part that makes the song for me is James' stupidly melodic aaaaah's. Goosebump inducing
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Old 23-07-2014, 11:23
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I really like it; even though watching Scritti Polliti support the Manics at the Brixton gigs was a pretty painful experience, I don't mind Green Gartside on this. But tbh the part that makes the song for me is James' stupidly melodic aaaaah's. Goosebump inducing
The credits list only Green as having done backing vocals...
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