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View Poll Results: Most Under-Rated Album
Generation Terrorists 6 5.17%
Gold Against The Soul 22 18.97%
The Holy Bible 0 0%
Everything Must Go 0 0%
This Is My Truth, Tell Me Yours 5 4.31%
Know Your Enemy 17 14.66%
Lifeblood 48 41.38%
Send Away The Tigers 2 1.72%
Journal For Plague Lovers 9 7.76%
Postcards From A Young Man 7 6.03%
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Old 17-07-2011, 21:40
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Everyone of their albums should be appreciated as they are all good in their own way

Lifeblood is the most underrated and the band have assisted in making it so.
It is a brilliant album (which the Lifeblood appreciation thread is testament to). It saddens me that this album gets less praise from the band.....

GATS is always represented in the setlist in some way so in my mind it's not under-rated; With the inclusion of SSI in recent setlists maybe Lifeblood is finally moving from 'under' to 'rated'?
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Old 17-07-2011, 21:49
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I don't often put much stock in the term 'underrated', but Lifeblood is almost its definition.
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Old 17-07-2011, 22:27
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Lifeblood, easily.
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I think on balance the band under-rates The Holy Bible far more than Lifeblood. A far superior album musically and lyrically and yet we are lucky if they play more than just Faster live nowadays.
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Know Your Enemy.

It would have been their best record if they had not included Let Robeson Sing and maybe Epicentre. Epicentre isn't a bad song, but that and Robeson make the album a tiny bit too long.
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I think on balance the band under-rates The Holy Bible far more than Lifeblood. A far superior album musically and lyrically and yet we are lucky if they play more than just Faster live nowadays.
No they have also played Yes, Of Walking Abortion, She is Suffering & This is Yesterday quite alot in the last 4 years.

THB, EMG, SATT and JFPL are the only MSP albums that have been played in full. Meaning i think people have had their fair share of THB. They need to start playing more non-singleTIMT/KYE/LB songs to balance it out.
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Old 18-07-2011, 18:13
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No they have also played Yes, Of Walking Abortion, She is Suffering & This is Yesterday quite alot in the last 4 years.

THB, EMG, SATT and JFPL are the only MSP albums that have been played in full. Meaning i think people have had their fair share of THB. They need to start playing more non-singleTIMT/KYE/LB songs to balance it out.
I don't think it's a coincidence the only tracks they haven't played from TIMT are I'm Not Working and Be Natural, and some from those other records as well - they're tracks totally put together in the studio and I doubt they could do them any sort of justice live (I'm Not Working would just send the whole room to sleep anyway). The records which have been played in full are probably their most "3 guys in a room" records anyway, so no surprise they're the ones which have had the most attention; they're also probably their best.
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'Know Your Enemy' by a country mile. It's probably my second favourite Manics album after 'The Holy Bible'. I love the variety of musical styles, the roughness of the production, the angry lyrics, even the art-work. I have to disagree with Radiomanic though - 'Robeson' and 'Epicentre' are two of my favourite tracks on there, and in fact two of the Manics songs I listen to most, along with the massively under-rated 'His Last Painting'. Factor in the raw fury of tracks like 'Freedom Of Speech', 'Intravenous Agnostic' and 'Found That Soul' and you've got the different sides of the band represented on one album. I'd swap 'Wattsville Blues' for 'Ballad of the Bangkok Novotel' and squeeze 'Locust Valley' on there somewhere. Other than that, it's fantastic.

But I do think 'Lifeblood' doesn't deserve its poor reputation either. '1985', 'Empty Souls', 'A Song For Departure', 'To Repel Ghosts', 'Solitude Sometimes Is' and 'Cardiff Afterlife' are great, the others are decent (yes, even 'Nixon'). I'd perform more surgery on it than 'KYE' though - loads of b-sides I'd swap. In fact, I'd probably make two albums out of and its b-sides (especially if you incorporate the '4-Ever Delayed' era tracks).

GATS is probably my least favourite Manics album though - I'd agree with the half/half thing, but I'd take the massively over-rated and dull 'From Despair To Where' off the 'good' list and swap it for the title track which I've always really liked.

And if this thread was just about this forum 'Postcards' would be in with a shout - hated on this forum, well reviewed and well-selling in the real world.
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GATS is probably my least favourite Manics album though - I'd agree with the half/half thing, but I'd take the massively over-rated and dull 'From Despair To Where' off
I agreed with you up until this point!
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Postcards only appears to be hated on this forum, plenty of us love it!
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Postcards only appears to be hated on this forum, plenty of us love it!
Postcards is a very good album. Way more mature and well-crafted then Send Away The Tigers, and a great contrast to Journal. There's plenty on here who like it, and plenty who pretend to hate it.
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agreed, I'd much rather hear I'm not working live than you stole the sun from my heart
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agreed, I'd much rather hear I'm not working live than you stole the sun from my heart
Two posts that agree with me in quick sucession! Surely a record for me!
I love YSTS at gigs though!
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Two posts that agree with me in quick sucession! Surely a record for me!
I love YSTS at gigs though!
Third post!
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