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View Poll Results: Best song to end an album?
Condemned to Rock N Roll 18 12.41%
Gold Against The Soul 2 1.38%
PCP 28 19.31%
No Surface All Feeling 58 40.00%
SYMM 6 4.14%
Freedom Of Speech Won't Feed My Children 3 2.07%
Cardiff Afterlife 7 4.83%
Winterlovers 0 0%
William's Last Word's 18 12.41%
Don't Be Evil 5 3.45%
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Old 25-09-2010, 18:45
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Old 25-09-2010, 19:09
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Condemned to Rock n Roll. Maybe GT is objectively bad, and maybe it's all a bit embarrassing, but I'll always have a soft spot for it because it's a proper teen angst album. The closer just sums up the whole feel of the album and rounds it off in such an overblown way. Lovely.

PCP 2nd best, and Cardiff Afterlife 3rd. Love the abrupt ending on the last one, and the general clarity and sincerity of the lyrics.
I'm not embarassed by it, for me the spirit of the album is greater than any other I've heard which is why I love it; I don't care how misdirected most of the lyrics are, they were young men trying to get to grips with a complicated world, it's the ultimate expression of that.
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Old 25-09-2010, 19:16
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That final hanging guitar harmonic and James singing "There's nothing I wanna see, there's nowhere I wanna go" is one of the greatest moments in their entire catalogue. Sends shivers up my spine whenever I hear it. Just a perfect little moment
I'm curious if there was an even lengthier edit of the song at one point, as the album sleeve has a jumbled up/extended version of the final few verses.
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Old 25-09-2010, 19:30
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the full order is:

1. No Surface All Feeling
2. Freedom Of Speech (hm..but the lyric...hmm..)
3. PCP
4. SYMM
5. GATS
6. CTR'n'R
7. Cardiff Afterlife
8. Bill's Last Words
9. Don't Be Evil
10. Winterlovers
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Old 25-09-2010, 19:49
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PCP - I love the final part when the backing vocals begin.

NSAF is good, but I'm not crazy about it.
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Old 25-09-2010, 20:04
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I'm curious if there was an even lengthier edit of the song at one point, as the album sleeve has a jumbled up/extended version of the final few verses.
Probably not: the GT booklet has a fair few missing/unincluded lines on songs and what we've seen from Nicky's handwritten lyric sheets ever since KYE there's always quite a lot of crossed out additional sections. I suspect the co-written times similarly had bits of lyrics that didn't make it to the songs and whoever wrote the GT booklet didn't check whether or not the written words on the sheets match the actual content of the recording.
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Didn't even have to think about this one - Condemned to Rock N' Roll. Epic guitar riffage from James. The 'Rocket Queen' of GT's 'Appetite,' as others have said. Dig this song so much I chose the title as the slogan to spray paint on the shirt I wore to my first Manics gig. The perfect closing song to me.
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Probably not: the GT booklet has a fair few missing/unincluded lines on songs and what we've seen from Nicky's handwritten lyric sheets ever since KYE there's always quite a lot of crossed out additional sections. I suspect the co-written times similarly had bits of lyrics that didn't make it to the songs and whoever wrote the GT booklet didn't check whether or not the written words on the sheets match the actual content of the recording.
Yeah but the rest are alright, accept for the missing line from Spectators of Suicide, and the differing verses are poetic enough that their could have been an edit.

'There's nothing I wanna see; there's nowhere I wanna go
Condemned to Rock n' Roll'
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No surface all feeling for me.
Most of the others are ok, but SYMM is just insultingly bad lyrically.
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Ahh, poor old GATS & Winterlovers!!

Am really pleased to see the Condemned to Rock n Roll love out there!! Sweeeeet!
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Condemned To Rock N' Roll for me too. I don't care what anyone says, its one of those epic 10/10 tracks of pure Rock brilliance.

In order:

Condemned To Rock N Roll
No Surface All Feeling
PCP
Freedom of Speech...
Gold Against the Soul
Don't Be Evil
Winterlovers
SYMM
William's Last Words
Cardiff Afterlife

I don't really like any after Gold Against the Soul as album closers. I can see why some were chosen as such - like SYMM, Cardiff Afterlife and Williams Last Words - but they are just relatively weak songs. Winterlovers and Don't Be Evil just leave me unfulfilled as closers (the former also being a relatively weak song).
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Condemned To Rock N' Roll (both the best of these songs and the best album closer, with Gold Against The Soul a very close second in both cases).


As album closers:

Condemned To Rock N Roll
Gold Against the Soul
SYMM
Cardiff Afterlife
No Surface All Feeling
PCP
Freedom of Speech...
Don't Be Evil
William's Last Words
Winterlovers


As how good the song is:

Condemned To Rock N Roll (9/10)
Gold Against the Soul (9/10)
PCP (9/10)
No Surface All Feeling (8/10)
Don't Be Evil (7/10)
Cardiff Afterlife (7/10)
SYMM (6/10)
Freedom of Speech... (6/10)
William's Last Words (5/10)
Winterlovers (2/10)
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