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Old 17-06-2019, 15:37
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It's hard to argue with that setlist.

Can we be crude and talk money? Do you think they make more for this support slot compared to one night on a normal tour?
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Old 17-06-2019, 16:26
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It's hard to argue with that setlist.

Can we be crude and talk money? Do you think they make more for this support slot compared to one night on a normal tour?
Interestingly, I've read somewhere that record labels pay bands to get them on the support slot unless the headlining act asks for them personally (for example £100k to support Take That, apparently). I don't know if that applies to the Manics in this instance because they're so established now and Bon Jovi (or their management) should be aware of them.

Now, let's say they did get paid - 10% of the profits on a 90,000 capacity gig vs (for arguments sake) 90% on a 4,000 capacity gig. Obviously the first figure would generate more money but I have no idea how this works so I am just speculating! I don't think anyone will know for certain unless you are from their inner circle.
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Old 17-06-2019, 19:46
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Interestingly, I've read somewhere that record labels pay bands to get them on the support slot unless the headlining act asks for them personally (for example £100k to support Take That, apparently). I don't know if that applies to the Manics in this instance because they're so established now and Bon Jovi (or their management) should be aware of them.

Now, let's say they did get paid - 10% of the profits on a 90,000 capacity gig vs (for arguments sake) 90% on a 4,000 capacity gig. Obviously the first figure would generate more money but I have no idea how this works so I am just speculating! I don't think anyone will know for certain unless you are from their inner circle.
I'm pretty sure they would be invited at a management level for these types of gigs. They probably would just get a set sum rather than a percentage of ticket sales as I guess they are there to fill time rather than attract anyone. I'm sure the helping hands in the band get a set session amount and then the band gets their pay. They must get a tidy amount they are happy with because there really is no other special reason to do it.
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Old 18-06-2019, 11:23
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As I understand it, support acts at most gigs get a set fee. It might be bigger for a big stadium tour, but I imagine it's not particularly lucrative.

The main "prize" from this sort of thing is probably exposure and sales. Let's face it, by playing to a Bon Jovi crowd, you're playing to a fairly large audience who still actually buy music (physically or otherwise.)
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Old 18-06-2019, 12:17
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I imagine that the opportunity to play these huge stadiums is a massive draw to the band especially as Nicky missed the GNR shows. These type of shows don't come along very often especially this late stage in their career. I'd think they would have been mad not to do it.
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Old 19-06-2019, 00:15
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They may have got the golden ticket in Bon Jovi's Opening Act competition the chosen ones received no fee.... I think that was just run in the U.S.....Less anyone's heard them grumbling bout their phone bill recently???

Bon Jovi's supposed to be amongst the biggest earners for their tours aren't they? So hopefully Mr Jovi's dug deep...and has remembered their name this time round
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Old 20-06-2019, 09:16
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So hopefully Mr Jovi's dug deep...and has remembered their name this time round
He should remember, he was singing their praises in 96/97 after he relocated to London for a year and was saying in interviews that if he hadn't he would have never heard of Manic Street Preachers and their wonderful Design for Life
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Old 20-06-2019, 15:26
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Obviously though BJ are not even close in comparison to the MSP despite their very average LP's for last 12 yrs apart from Futurology
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Old 20-06-2019, 19:16
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He should remember, he was singing their praises in 96/97 after he relocated to London for a year and was saying in interviews that if he hadn't he would have never heard of Manic Street Preachers and their wonderful Design for Life
Well, you're asking him to remember 20 years back...when back then he seemed to have forgotten that that band he'd never heard of opened for them 3 years previous

Oh hang on, that was the Maniacs wasn't it
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If they only got 50p of the ticket price they would make £45,000 right? (Based on 90k)That seems plausible to me, a tidy some as well.
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Old 22-06-2019, 17:06
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A lady at work today said she went to see Bon Jovi in Liverpool the other night, so I said "That means you'll have seen my favourite band then, too." And she said "Oh the Manics? They were really good, played some of their greatest hits songs which I knew, they commanded the stage." I was pleased she enjoyed them. She also said her ticket was £140 I think she said!!! Shocking.
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Old 22-06-2019, 17:18
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If they only got 50p of the ticket price they would make £45,000 right? (Based on 90k)That seems plausible to me, a tidy some as well.
I'd think they will be on a flat fee rather than a % of the tickets.
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Old 22-06-2019, 18:43
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I'd think they will be on a flat fee rather than a % of the tickets.
You may well be right. What have they done 7/8 gigs? How much you reckon they’ll get for that?

Out of interest what would they get for say their own tour, 2k capacity at £40 a ticket?
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Old 22-06-2019, 19:57
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You may well be right. What have they done 7/8 gigs? How much you reckon they’ll get for that?

Out of interest what would they get for say their own tour, 2k capacity at £40 a ticket?
Not sure tbh, but having seen/heard some of the wages past Jovi support acts (and it's not limited to just them) have earned I'd be willing to bet it's a criminally low amount - £1000 a gig would be an eductaed guess.

2K capacity venues are a fantastic earner for headliners due to the massively reduced production costs/venue hire etc. Arenas cost a fortune to hire, and stadiums even worse. Obviously if you are gauranteed to sell them out it's worth it, but if you are not sure then City Hall or O2 Academy sized venues are a much better prospect. Sadly the last two times I saw Manics at Leeds Arena they were nowhere near full - probably why we saw a small scale tour this time around.
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