When you think about it: PFAYM = KYE

[circle-the-wagons]

Its Not War has more comparible lineage to You Stole the Sun than Found That Soul....i think Proevpete would've had more agreement had he said that like KYE when they wanted to rediscover/explore their raw roots from GT this new album is a nostalgia trip harking back to EMG and TIMTT whilst still trying to be creative with a few new fresh ideas.

[Daniel]

The ramblings of a mad man

[Frozendiva]

I liked 'Know Your Enemy'.

[Bartek Wyre]

I liked KYE too and PFAYM is nowhere near that. It's far worse. It's SATT part 2 and a half.

[Ben]

Originally Posted by Daniel

The ramblings of a mad man

That would have been a better name for the album.

[Always/Never]

Originally Posted by BradfieldsLoveChild

That would have been a better name for the album.

lol Ben. Daniel is right though, what an absurd comparison to make.

[Bathtub]

KYE was crap and too long, but sort of interesting in some respects. PFAYM is just dull.

[The Gutless Wonder]

I love KYE and Nicky's singing aside I get a feeling that I'm gonna really like Postcards too!

[Radiomanic]

Well KYE is my second favourite Manics album, and from the previews this one comes nowhere near it. So no, i strongly disagree with this post! That said, the next one is more likely to be like KYE when they realise they hate the commercial sound and want to be obscure again.

[The Gutless Wonder]

I think they do both well. The stand-offish punky hard stuff and the more radio-friendly commercial stuff. Everyone's a winner!

[Lament]

Originally Posted by proevpete

Now I'm a bit partial to some KYE. Obviously it doesnt stand up to the fanboy eras but it wa the height of my Manics obsession and I can see past the shitness on the album to really appreciate it.

After listening to the tracks of the new album on these radio shows, they sound even more to me like KYE.

But before you shout "Get out of this forum!" lets set this up:

1. PFAYM has come after two major successes - KYE came after two major successes

2. PFAYM is a direct response to the JFPL - KYE was direct response to TIMT

3. The Manics were at the egotistical peak after TIMT - I still think their egos are up there now after the return to glory.

4. Its not War = Found That Soul
SKON = So Why So Sad
Auto-Intox / Billion Balconines (sonically) = Epicentre / His Last Painting / My Guernica / Baby Elian
Postcards = Ocean Spray
ILYFS = Pedestal

5. Both have shit singing by Nicky

6. Both have Sean playing trumpet.

7. Both had shitty launch promo despite the expectations.

8. Both are too long.


I'm sure there are more similarities.

#3 is just blatantly not true.

[Europa Gluten Free]

Originally Posted by Lament

#3 is just blatantly not true.

Jesus, No.3 is more true than any of the other ones!

[sonicshake]

Originally Posted by proevpete

Jesus, No.3 is more true than any of the other ones!

How did you come to that conclusion?

[Europa Gluten Free]

Originally Posted by sonicshake

How did you come to that conclusion?

Quite simply.

The Manics egos were HUGE after the commerical success of TIMT. They fought they could say fuck you in the music industry and go to Cuba. It cost them 6 years of their careers.

Equally now they believe that they can reach some sort of mass communication after being critically acclaimed after their last two albums. They thought they were writing pop greatness yet listen to any interview and after the cold light of day they sound extremely unsure of themselves. Even mentionning "we can be that other band...already we're wanting to go back there" is just a complete cop out.

[The Gutless Wonder]

They never lost six years for me!