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Old 17-08-2020, 17:05
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Here's a few comments about the KYE re-release from earlier this year. Definitely would be interested to see how splitting the album into two would have worked. Whilst I'm not of a fan of substituting songs into an album for a reissue, I'm far happier for a complete overhaul and restructuring like this.

https://www.nme.com/news/music/manic...-enemy-2626009
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Old 17-08-2020, 17:07
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Me too - hope they go ahead with it
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Old 17-08-2020, 19:47
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I'd like to see the original idea of it being split into two albums as well but combined and sold in one package.
Editing the track listing then makes sense and i'm fine with that but editing the track listing of an album being reissued as is... son, just don't.
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Old 18-08-2020, 16:56
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I think the best way would be to present the entire album and all its associated b-sides (plus Door to the River) and then do what Brett Anderson did with the 2011 Suede reissues: put a proposed tracklist in the liner notes so we can make it ourselves.

That or do the main album as CD1, then the two separate albums as CD2 and CD3 (or even combined onto CD2), with any remaining b-sides, demos and remixes on CD3/4.
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Old 18-08-2020, 19:36
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I'm up for them re-writing history and splitting KYE as I've never liked the original track order.
Whatever they do the vinyl absolutely has to be on 2 discs this time
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Old 18-08-2020, 23:02
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Only just discovered KYE was released as 1xLP. That's pretty damn hilarious.
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Old 18-08-2020, 23:14
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Minus the hidden track it's not much longer than TIMT. I've owned a fair few 60 minute single LPs and as long as they're cut well they sound surprisingly good.
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Old 19-08-2020, 00:51
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KYE is long, but should be extended with b-sides from KYE era, and shuffled
on 2 LPs.
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Old 19-08-2020, 09:12
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KYE was never going to be a double album, it was just one of Nicky’s many pipe dreams. Just like he said earlier in the year the new MSP album is ‘very broad and expansive’ before JDB came along and said they’ve only just started doing a couple of demos recently and he has no idea where the album is going.

I’m all for Nicky’s solo album being a triple, though.
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Old 19-08-2020, 10:48
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Minus the hidden track it's not much longer than TIMT. I've owned a fair few 60 minute single LPs and as long as they're cut well they sound surprisingly good.
Which are these? Are the spoken word or classical albums? I might need a bit of convincing.
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Old 19-08-2020, 10:55
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KYE is long, but should be extended with b-sides from KYE era, and shuffled
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Surely you're going to need at the very least 3x LPs if you want to include b-sides? Even then, that would perhaps just about cover the studio cuts.
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Of all the re-issues I will pay whatever price Wire sticks on the front for a KYE re-issue. Underappreciated era. Best artwork, best b-sides. Best Wire hair and dresses. Unfortunately they just got bit fat and sounded a bit shit live (looking at you and your organ Naysmyth!)
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Old 19-08-2020, 11:30
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Of all the re-issues I will pay whatever price Wire sticks on the front for a KYE re-issue. Underappreciated era. Best artwork, best b-sides. Best Wire hair and dresses. Unfortunately they just got bit fat and sounded a bit shit live (looking at you and your organ Naysmyth!)
I don’t know if it’s just nostalgia for the era when I got interested, but I loved the KYE live sound. That sparse guitar with plunk plunk bass have been lost to the newer lineup
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KYE was never going to be a double album, it was just one of Nicky’s many pipe dreams. Just like he said earlier in the year the new MSP album is ‘very broad and expansive’ before JDB came along and said they’ve only just started doing a couple of demos recently and he has no idea where the album is going.

I’m all for Nicky’s solo album being a triple, though.
Over the years, Nicky established himself as somebody people can't trust
to properly describe upcoming Manics album. He is often funny, but nowdays it always sounds like trolling.

He grew a lot as a musician over the last decade (not just a good singer anymore : /) and I am expecting some great stuff from his solo effort.
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KYE was never going to be a double album, it was just one of Nicky’s many pipe dreams.
Are you sure? I'm convinced i remember both james and nicky talking about it because the simultaneous double single release was meant to reflect the split in the album. I have it in my mind that the record company would have put the kibosh on it, they probably didn't like the double single release as it is.

Either way, it's still something worth them exploring instead of sticking with a bog stand reissue. Do something interesting with it instead.

Having done a quick search it seems that sean also confirmed this in an interview with a spanish music website in 2014, if the janky translate is accurate anyway.

https://jenesaispop.com/2014/07/17/1...a-superficial/

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It is quite unusual nowadays for a band to release two albums in such a short time (unless you are Robert Pollard, of course). Why not release a single album mixing songs from ‘Rewind The Film’ and ‘Futurology’ instead of two discs so different from each other?

Now that we have our own studio it is very easy to record all the music that we want and on the other hand we did not want to release an album as confusing as 'Know Your Enemy'. What happened with that album was that the songs on it were designed to be part of two different albums and we ended up doing what you just suggested, with a somewhat strange result. With these last two albums something different has happened: we started writing songs and after six weeks or so we realized that the songs were taking two different directions, that is, the fact of having released two albums was not something intentional in a beginning. It is not something strange that these things happen to us, we are quite eclectic and schizophrenic, we have very different influences.
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