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Old 29-12-2009, 18:35
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yeah who the hell got hold of the 1985-1989 Demos????

Must have been risky if it was pinched, or lucky if found in a skip!
It Richey. Before he disappeared he wanted to do something for the fandom. He wanted us to hear that just about everything song they did before was essentially a crap version of stay beautful.
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Old 29-12-2009, 18:43
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it was recorded as demo in the January 1995 sessions, so maybe they used different equipment? Not sure though!
Now that's a point, it sounds like the same snare as on the No Surface All Feeling demo.
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it was recorded as demo in the January 1995 sessions, so maybe they used different equipment? Not sure though!
Seeing as they trashed all their equipment the previous month this is more than likely.
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Always thought the vocals were too formed to be '94
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i just hope that if they ever do an actual, proper Dredd film that they remember this song and try and get it on the soundtrack. even if it is a Sean "rave snare drum dub" mix of it.
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Old 30-12-2009, 07:15
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There always seemed to be a bit of confusion about Skinheads as well but to me the vocals at least definitely sound like a later recording. (James' 'fat' voice Kirb! Tsk!)
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Old 30-12-2009, 09:48
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(James' 'fat' voice Kirb! Tsk!)
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I mean, listen to James when he was skinny in the early days of the band. Suicide Alley? Spectators of Suicide? Even Motorcycle Emptiness? All in need of more pie.
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Old 30-12-2009, 21:37
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i just hope that if they ever do an actual, proper Dredd film that they remember this song and try and get it on the soundtrack. even if it is a Sean "rave snare drum dub" mix of it.
I'd hope that with it being a UK comic and, Rebellion, being a UK-based company, would be more likely to have Manics fans that would remember to sanction such a thing, than if they were based in any other country, and that the comic.

The solo in Judge Yr'self really does seem to fit a Judge Dredd moment for me.
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Old 30-12-2009, 22:11
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I'd hope that with it being a UK comic and, Rebellion, being a UK-based company, would be more likely to have Manics fans that would remember to sanction such a thing, than if they were based in any other country, and that the comic.

The solo in Judge Yr'self really does seem to fit a Judge Dredd moment for me.
They should have released a Ltd Edn EP of Judge Yr'Self, with art work, just a physical release of IT would have been even grander then Lipstick Traces.
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Old 30-12-2009, 22:56
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Yeah, I couldn't agree more with you on that one Dext! I've often wondered why they didn't tbh.
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Yeah, I couldn't agree more with you on that one Dext! I've often wondered why they didn't tbh.
i seem to recall from the interviews at the time that they saw JY as "the last song" they did with Richey, irrespective of if it was or not. i think the idea was to put it out for the fans, but they had no wish to get heavily involved in promoting it, a bit like no singles from JFPL i suppose.
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yeah who the hell got hold of the 1985-1989 Demos????

Must have been risky if it was pinched, or lucky if found in a skip!
Hahaha, are you deliberately being daft, they would have sent demo's into record companies as to get a record deal, so someone from damaged goods or heavenly would have maybe put them out, or maybe even fanzines or the NME were sent copies.
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i seem to recall from the interviews at the time that they saw JY as "the last song" they did with Richey, irrespective of if it was or not. i think the idea was to put it out for the fans, but they had no wish to get heavily involved in promoting it, a bit like no singles from JFPL i suppose.
I imagine it comes from the first EMG session before richey left.


I'm pretty sure James stated in an interview that only the vocals were recorded but it's been so long I couldn't tell you which one. I also remember james saying he had no particular love for the song, i think they just recorded it for the fans.

Also, the album version of NSAF recorded the same way? Old music with re-recording vocals and an outro?
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I'm pretty certain I read in an interview that James rerecorded the vocals for the verses but the chorus is as it was originally.
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Also, the album version of NSAF recorded the same way? Old music with re-recording vocals and an outro?
Yep, the demo version on the EMG re-issue is musically exactly the same bar some production/overdub guitar on the chorus
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