#16
|
||||
|
||||
Oh, and on a pettier point:
"Tonight we beg the question". I know it has its place in common usage, but it grates on me. I actually wish I didn't know it was wrong. So perhaps don't click this: http://begthequestion.info/
__________________
'Those Manics are great mun ent'it!' | Miyazaki-San, Arigato | POPCORN! | PorcoTunes: SC=fdporco YT=PorcoForever | ---...but the pigs are getting into our garden, and just digging holes, looking for truffles or something "--- Last edited by Porco; 22-01-2011 at 12:18. |
#17
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
Dr. Porco recommends the excellent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freaks to cure you of your dislike of the term due to more recent associations.
__________________
'Those Manics are great mun ent'it!' | Miyazaki-San, Arigato | POPCORN! | PorcoTunes: SC=fdporco YT=PorcoForever | ---...but the pigs are getting into our garden, and just digging holes, looking for truffles or something "--- |
#18
|
||||
|
||||
I kind of agree with Porco re: A billion balconies.
I love the song. However to if I were to push Mr Wire further it would be to state that communicating via the internet is just an extension of a phone call yet cheaper! I for one will always embrace new technology, as it is clearly here to stay. It seems to me that technological advances go hand in hand with Human Evolution. I think Nicky is trying to say that we have maybe lost the personal touch (hence the concept-if there is one- of the album being based around old Postcards etc) but at time he stretches the point to far. Maybe we should just look at the album as a love letter to the past? That is how I hear it anyway |
#19
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/begs.html
__________________
V2002 Move 2003 V2006 KoKo 2006 Culture Show 2007 Album Chart Show 2007 XFM 2007 V2007 Glastonbury 2007 Astoria 2007 London Brixton 2007 NME Awards 2008 NME Big Gig 2008 Forever Heavenly 2008 Roundhouse 2009 Forum 2009 Concert for Care 2009 XFM Winter Wonderland 2010 Brixton Academy 2011 Blackwood Miners Institute 2011 Roundhouse 2011 O2 2011 Rough Trade East 2012 Shepherds Bush 2013 Brixton 2014 Glastonbury 2014 Rough Trade East 2014 Acoustic Guitar Show 2014 London Roundhouse 2014 Cardiff Castle 2015 London On Blackheath 2015 London Royal Albert Hall 2016 Swansea Liberty Stadium 2016 Wembley Arena 2018 Shepherds Bush 2019 Kingston Pryzm 2021 x2 Wembley Arena 2021 Glastonbury 2023 Alexandra Palace 2024 (40)
|
#20
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
|
#21
|
||||
|
||||
Billion Balconies. Good god, Billion Balconies. Porco already mentioned the ridiculous notion of a self-professed Mr "what this tek-noo-loo-gee thing you keep mentioning?" not only writing a song about central modern-day technology but also going on to criticise it. Add to that the message the song seems to convey: "by consuming what surely is only boredom everyday our egos inflate and thus we can freely throw around hate everywhere because there's no consequences but in reality we're sad, lost creatures trapped in the lies of technology". Basically, what?
It looks like a petty retort of a person who looked at an internet forum and found people disagreeing with some things they had done. Which is really, really cringy as an idea. Plus the fact that it's married to this big call-to-arms rocker anthem just makes it sound even pettier. And naturally, because I post on the internet disagreeing with a song that lashes out at people posting in the internet, I automatically enable the possibility of the author being able to point fingers at me and going "TOLD YOU SO". -- Re: Underdogs. If we're looking at lyrical dodginess there, I wouldn't go for the 'freaks' thing. Sure it's a bit of an awkward choice of words, but the real dodgy moment of the song comes when a love letter for the fans contains "people like you need to fuck people like me". Okay. Although TBH the main crime of that song continues to be the edit that must not be mentioned.
__________________
|
#22
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
Must. Not. Mention. The. Edi-- *ahem*. Another personal petty one: 4, as in '4ever' etc. Why? Or should I ask Y? I think the usage of '4' instead of 'for' in the notorious '4 REAL' incident is understandable enough, but I could do without it in '4ever Delayed' or 'The Future Has Been Here 4 Ever' etc. OK, I think I have said enough in this thread for a while now.
__________________
'Those Manics are great mun ent'it!' | Miyazaki-San, Arigato | POPCORN! | PorcoTunes: SC=fdporco YT=PorcoForever | ---...but the pigs are getting into our garden, and just digging holes, looking for truffles or something "--- |
#23
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
__________________
Ransomed Hearts - rock, werewolves and romance ... get my books here - https://amzn.to/3tI2XJT |
#24
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
sums up how I feel perfectly.
__________________
The Fourteenth Book of Bokonon is entitled 'What Can a Thoughtful Man Hope for Mankind on Earth, Given the Experiment of the Past Million Years?' It doesn't take long to read The Fourteenth Book. It consists of one word and a period. This is it: 'Nothing.' - Cat's Cradle, Kurt Vonnegut |
#25
|
||||
|
||||
I'd hazard a guess that the continued use of 4 is a throwback to the 4 Real thing; Manics lore referencing, if you will.
__________________
|
#26
|
||||
|
||||
'It's So Fucking Funny, It's Obscene' WTF??
|
#27
|
||||
|
||||
The anger about Balconies I find a bit OTT. For me, I don't think the song is saying 'Do not use the internet, EVER!'. I think it is just saying keep technology in it's place.
__________________
"Former glam-punk rocker James Dean Bradfield now looks like your friendly, slightly rumpled Welsh uncle who always brings you chocolate when he visits. That's not a bad thing." - Allister Thompson aka The Gateless Gate (Canadian musician) |
#28
|
||||
|
||||
I thought it was 'Absurd'
__________________
V2002 Move 2003 V2006 KoKo 2006 Culture Show 2007 Album Chart Show 2007 XFM 2007 V2007 Glastonbury 2007 Astoria 2007 London Brixton 2007 NME Awards 2008 NME Big Gig 2008 Forever Heavenly 2008 Roundhouse 2009 Forum 2009 Concert for Care 2009 XFM Winter Wonderland 2010 Brixton Academy 2011 Blackwood Miners Institute 2011 Roundhouse 2011 O2 2011 Rough Trade East 2012 Shepherds Bush 2013 Brixton 2014 Glastonbury 2014 Rough Trade East 2014 Acoustic Guitar Show 2014 London Roundhouse 2014 Cardiff Castle 2015 London On Blackheath 2015 London Royal Albert Hall 2016 Swansea Liberty Stadium 2016 Wembley Arena 2018 Shepherds Bush 2019 Kingston Pryzm 2021 x2 Wembley Arena 2021 Glastonbury 2023 Alexandra Palace 2024 (40)
|
#29
|
||||
|
||||
It is if he's referring to Elvis Impersonator.
__________________
"Former glam-punk rocker James Dean Bradfield now looks like your friendly, slightly rumpled Welsh uncle who always brings you chocolate when he visits. That's not a bad thing." - Allister Thompson aka The Gateless Gate (Canadian musician) |
#30
|
||||
|
||||
Think I agree here. My take is that they're not moaning at the internet itself, more that it has become a time waster for many people. I mean, my niece spends HOURS on Facebook, ultimately spouting a load of crap that doesn't need to be mentioned to anybody whatsover. "Mmm...pie for tea". Thanks for sharing that with us. Is it this that Nicky is getting at, rather than people using the internet to read the news etc?
__________________
Manic Street Preachers Rock City Oct 1994; Newport May 1996; Knebworth Aug1996; Exeter Oct 1996; Reading April 1997; Cardiff Dec 1999; Manchester Mar 2001; Brixton Mar 2001; Llandudno Aug 2001; Leeds Festival Aug 2001; Birmingham Dec 2002; Cardiff Dec 2002; Brighton Dec 2004; Manchester Dec 2006; Sheffield May 2007; Bristol June 2007; Birmingham Dec 2007; Reading Festival Aug 2008; Royal Festival Hall Sep 2008; Camden Roundhouse May 2009; Sheffield Oct 2010; London O2 Dec 2011; Manchester Sep 2013; Leeds Mar 2014; Manchester Dec 2014; James Dean Bradfield Manchester May 2006; Sheffield Oct 2006; Sheffield Graves Art Gallery Oct 2011 |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|