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Old 01-07-2007, 10:50
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I found this "Richey's favourites" file in my Manics folder, don't know where it comes from but I think it was from some interview or something where Richey was writing down some of his favourite books/authors. I've read way too many of these...

small crypt warnings/ suddenly last summer/ baby doll - Tennessee Williams
go ask alice - Anon
the bell jar - Sylvia Plath
season in hell - Rimbaud
junky - William Burroughs
myth of sisyphus/ the outsider/ the fall/ the plague - Albert Camus
poetry by any of the following :
Philip Larkin
Primo Levi
Blake
Sassoons
the boy looked at johnny - Burchill + Parsons
mystery train - Greil Marcus
awop - Nik Cohn
crosstown traffic - O Murray
elvis- last 48 hours/ lives of lennon - Goldman
1984 - George Orwell
lolita - Nabokov
the fire nextime / another country - James Baldini
borstal boy - Beliar
less than zero/ american psycho - Brett Easton Ellis
lord of the flies/ the inheritor - Golding
prick up your ears - John Lahr
one flew over the cuckoo's nest - Ken Kesey
brave new world - Huxley
desolation angels - Jack Kerouac
dice man - Luke Rhinehart
invisible man - Ellison
catcher in the rye - J. D. Salinger
birdy/ pride - Wharton
naomi - Junichiro Tanazaki
no longer human - Osamu Dazai
the trial / metamorphosis - Franz Kafka
frisk - Cooper
notes from the underground - Dostoevsky
bernice bobs her hair - F. Scott Fitzgerald
black rain - Ibuse
thirst for love - Mishima
dorian gray - Oscar Wilde
miracle of the rose - Genet
crash/ atrocity exhibition - J.G. Ballard
blown away - Hotchrer
knots - R D Laing
under the volcano - Lowry
wasteland - T S Elliot
torture garden - Mirbeau
runaway soul - Brodke
the lost soul - Alan Jackson
All of the ones I was going to suggest are on this list. Top stuff! Wrote about The Plague and Notes From Underground in my dissertation.

I would recommend a lot of Nietzsche as an influence on some of the above stuff as well - especially On The Genealogy of Morals (mainly Part 3). It's profoundly Manics.
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Old 01-07-2007, 13:57
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I can imagine that they've read Orwell, 1984 is like the Holy Bible (no pun intended) for people with an interest in politics.
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alternatively, could you recommend a good new/old book for me to read? Im open minded with books but do like the old horror book
I'd like to recommend The Collector by John Fowles, seeing as its not been mentioned and isn't included on that Holy List.
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Nicky talks about a Jon Savage book called Teenage in one of the blog posts on the official site. Seems interesting.

And for all those who think that Camus, Kafka, Orwell, Kerouac etc are predictable teenage books, well, they're classics, and there's a reason for that. They say something to people that is obvioulsy important and worth reading.
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That's strange... Do you remember where the list of books came from? Richey can't have listed an article about himself written in 1996 could he?
To quote myself from the thread we had here last year about the Richey's favourite books list:
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I found the list of books in a very long FAQ from 1996. (I still have the FAQ. For a few years, I had the whole thing on my site.) I can't tell exactly where the FAQ itself came from, but it's a text file and it has a bunch of people listed as the creators of it. The FAQ seems to have something to do with a Manics mailing list.
Additionally, the FAQ seems to have had something to do with that very old (the original?) Manics web site, tmtm.com. (And the list in the FAQ, does not include the Alan Jackson article. Who knows how that got added.) If the guy behind that site was the person who typed the FAQ, (and the list of Richey's favourite books), that could explain the mistakes.
I recently spent several weeks comparing all the articles I've had on my site with the actual, printed versions of them. There were lots of mistakes, some that were more than just typos. (I fixed the mistakes, of course.) And it seems that a lot of the articles I had to fix were originally on the tmtm.com site.
See, I originally did with the books list, and the articles, what other webmasters did. We just copied and pasted things from each other, without checking them. I had good excuses for doing that for the first two years of my site - I didn't have many of the actual articles, or a computer. (I was using the computers at the public library, so I didn't have a whole lot of time to do anything.) But, now I have a lot more of the actual articles, and my own computer, so I've been taking the time over the last few years, to check and correct what's on my site - the articles and the list of Richey's favourite books. (There's still some articles I can't check, though, btw.)
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Old 01-07-2007, 16:47
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I'm new to the forum so sorry if this has already been a topic. I'm on the search for a good book to read and after having my old manics obsession come back into my head I thought I would get some inspirations from Nicky Wire. lol.

Do you know what his favourite books/authors are?

alternatively, could you recommend a good new/old book for me to read? Im open minded with books but do like the old horror book
I think 1984 and Camus' The Plague were/are the Wire's favourites, definitely 2 of the few I could get through from Richey's list.
And I got Carol Ann Duffy down as a poet he likes (yep i take notes) and also Barry McSweeney's poetry collection 'Book of Demons' - inspired by Blake and McSweeney's battle with alcoholism which killed him a few years ago (sounds a Nicky poet then) - I haven't read any Barry but I've read some of Carol Ann Duffy and liked

Horror wise I dunno about Nicky but I really love Shirley Jackson's novels and short stories and there's one by Robert Marasco called 'Burnt Offerings' now though long out of print but worth a search, and Haunted by James Herbert, and Daphne du Maurier's short stories of the macabre. And Misery by Stephen King. Oh and Lost Girls by Andrew Pyper - loved that.

A couple of new books just out which aren't horror but are kinda the horror behind the normal everyday ... kindathingcategory ... are Rupert Thomson's Death of a Murderer - his fictional take on the policeman left to guard the body of Myra Hindley overnight and just how thin the line is that separates us from the 'monster'. And The Dead of Summer by Camilla Way - children and their secrets, by the end of the summer 3 of the children are dead, how they die and why is related through the eyes of 13 year old Anita. It's clever and dark and brilliant.
You also cannot go wrong with anything by Lesley Glaister.
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...and Daphne du Maurier's short stories of the macabre.
Oh is that the one with Don't Look Now? Having read that after seeing the film numerous times I knew what was going to happen at the end, but it still spooked the pants off me!
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Oh is that the one with Don't Look Now? Having read that after seeing the film numerous times I knew what was going to happen at the end, but it still spooked the pants off me!
Yeah ... well the collection that one's in is named after that story, and there's The Birds & other stories, The Blue Lenses & other stories and there's lots of 'collected n selected' erm collections n selections drawing from them all and they often include Don't Look Now so they're easy to come by
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Yeah ... well the collection that one's in is named after that story, and there's The Birds & other stories, The Blue Lenses & other stories and there's lots of 'collected n selected' erm collections n selections drawing from them all and they often include Don't Look Now so they're easy to come by
I remember now, the one I have is Don't Look Now and other stories. Or something like that. It has Julie Christie on the front cover!

Does anyone know anything about the remake of the film? AAAARGH!!!

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Sorry if it's there somewhere and I've missed it but I just thought I should mention that Novel With Cocaine thing that Richey was apparently into in a big way towards "the end".
I've been keeping an eye out for it in second-hand bookshops for years but have never found a copy. Anyone read it or know anything about it?
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Sorry if it's there somewhere and I've missed it but I just thought I should mention that Novel With Cocaine thing that Richey was apparently into in a big way towards "the end".
I've been keeping an eye out for it in second-hand bookshops for years but have never found a copy. Anyone read it or know anything about it?
i read it a while ago and thought it was all right. i know that's vague, but i honestly don't remember loads of details about it now except that it had some decent passages every so often, and was immensely depressing towards the end.

as for what it's about, these will probably explain better than i can:
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by M. Ageyev a pseudynm for a man who 'disappeared' without a trace. It's along Richey's usual themes ... dark, drug addiction fuelled and metaphorical 'for the violent purification of the Bolshevik upheaval' and translated from Russian ... though it's fairly short and y'can follow it
Did Richey himself ever mention this book or was it one that cropped up in an article and became part of the mythology? I can't remember where I first read of it, it was in the days/weeks after he vanished ... I do remember the day after I heard of it I found a copy, I was thinking why it is a sign ... I've been receiving these 'signs' in every second hand bookshop I been in since (you're going into the wrong shops Mr Inconspicuous)
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by M. Ageyev a pseudynm for a man who 'disappeared' without a trace. It's along Richey's usual themes ... dark, drug addiction fuelled and metaphorical 'for the violent purification of the Bolshevik upheaval' and translated from Russian ... though it's fairly short and y'can follow it
Did Richey himself ever mention this book or was it one that cropped up in an article and became part of the mythology? I can't remember where I first read of it, it was in the days/weeks after he vanished ... I do remember the day after I heard of it I found a copy, I was thinking why it is a sign ... I've been receiving these 'signs' in every second hand bookshop I been in since (you're going into the wrong shops Mr Inconspicuous)
http://articles.richeyedwards.net/27jan00express.html
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It's a bit overwrought isn't it, Utton's piece, 'it wasn't a 'suicide letter' but a love letter' etc. I hadn't come across that piece before, it might have been an Emma Forrest article I'm remembering
I still can't remember anyone who would know saying that that was the book left in the room.
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I'm new to the forum so sorry if this has already been a topic. I'm on the search for a good book to read and after having my old manics obsession come back into my head I thought I would get some inspirations from Nicky Wire. lol.

Do you know what his favourite books/authors are?
Well, to quote Nicky in a recent interview!:

"I read poetry and non-fiction - I can't be doing with fiction, it seems so weak and pointless in comparison. Fiction, the most despised art form! And anyway, there's so much good stuff on the telly isn't there?"

You have to laugh really. Otherwise we'd all be hot-footing it to the Welsh valleys to give him a slap. A loving slap.

Read Nicky's recommendations at http://www.nickywire.co.uk/wordmojooct04.html

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alternatively, could you recommend a good new/old book for me to read? Im open minded with books but do like the old horror book [/
I would recommend 'V' by Thomas Pynchon. It's ridiculous and none of the characters are even remotely plausible, but it just got such an energy and wit about it. Read it.
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