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View Poll Results: How High Will It Chart?
Number One 3 3.75%
Top 5 28 35.00%
Top 10 28 35.00%
Top 20 12 15.00%
Top 40 2 2.50%
Top 80 2 2.50%
Will Not Chart In Any Way, Shape Or Form 0 0%
Who Cares? 5 6.25%
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Old 19-09-2013, 21:52
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NME just keep on and on about anything the AM do, to a point they are telling people to buy their crap. They worship anything they do as if they are some sort of cult. I love the Manics, but don't treat them as if they are some sort of gods.

I'd rather join an underground cult than buy an AM album or go to one of their gigs. Their last two albums have not sold well and I thought people were moving on, but oh no they are back with huge selling sales figures despite the fact we are in one of the worse years for album sales. If "The" NME shut up about them, I bet their sales would dry up again.
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Old 19-09-2013, 21:58
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I'm really not sure the NME has the influence it used to.
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Maybe just inside the top 10. Lack of a strong charting lead single might have an effect. Sad that that is the case as Show Me The Wonder is a great song.
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NME just keep on and on about anything the AM do, to a point they are telling people to buy their crap. They worship anything they do as if they are some sort of cult. I love the Manics, but don't treat them as if they are some sort of gods.

I'd rather join an underground cult than buy an AM album or go to one of their gigs. Their last two albums have not sold well and I thought people were moving on, but oh no they are back with huge selling sales figures despite the fact we are in one of the worse years for album sales. If "The" NME shut up about them, I bet their sales would dry up again.
Well I like the AM and I never read the NME, I can remember when the NME worshipped the Manic's many years back and as for saying their fans are something of a cult you have obviously never been round some Manic's fans like I have for the last 20 odd years
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Old 20-09-2013, 10:38
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Well, I'm aware of the Nicky fans and their leopard skin coats and converse!. I don't know anyone personally who's a Manics fan and does that.

Anyway, now look, it wouldn't surprise me if we lose top 5 at the end of the week. Seems to me most of the 13,000 odd was "front-loaded" and hasn't sold that much in the regular release week.

Albums

1 Arctic Monkeys - AM
2 Avicii - True *
3 Elton John - The Diving Board * (1,000 ahead of M.S.P.)
4 Manic Street Preachers - Rewind The Film *
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Old 20-09-2013, 10:49
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Well this includes all the thousands of pre-orders which would have been counted on Monday, so no surprise there.
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I'm hoping for top 5 but top 10 will be good too.
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Number 5 in Ireland. And I've still not heard it.
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Number 5 in Ireland. And I've still not heard it.
Irish charts are on the Friday aren't they with new releases on the Saturday?. That's the de facto for most European charts, UK always has to be different though, right down to three pin plugs instead of two like the rest of the continent!. The album has also gone in at #97 in Flanders and 147 in Wallonia, albums climb more often in their second week in Europe, rather than just when new singles are released.

Still, number 5 in Ireland is brilliant, hope it holds on and goes gold later in the year (7,500). Ireland seems to have better taste in UK bands these days.
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The week ends on the Thursday with new releases on Fridays.

http://www.irma.ie/aucharts.asp#albums
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I think the bulk of MSP album sales come from pre-orders put in by people like us - dedicated fans. And that's about it. If they'd scheduled tour dates this week rather than sticking them all from next week onwards they could have had a chance of breaking into the top 3, but that won't happen now.
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Irish charts are on the Friday aren't they with new releases on the Saturday?. That's the de facto for most European charts, UK always has to be different though, right down to three pin plugs instead of two like the rest of the continent!. The album has also gone in at #97 in Flanders and 147 in Wallonia, albums climb more often in their second week in Europe, rather than just when new singles are released.

Still, number 5 in Ireland is brilliant, hope it holds on and goes gold later in the year (7,500). Ireland seems to have better taste in UK bands these days.
Flanders and Wallonia? Belgium doesn't even have combined album charts anymore? Really interesting that! *even if off-topic*
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Old 20-09-2013, 17:58
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Indeed, its been like that since 1995 when the organisation responsible for compiling the chart changed to that of Ultratop. Before this it was combined.

Since Brussels is independent from Flanders and Wallonia, I'm not sure what chart that contributes to, but since the majority there speak French, I'm sure it's deemed as Wallonia.
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Old 20-09-2013, 18:01
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The week ends on the Thursday with new releases on Fridays.

http://www.irma.ie/aucharts.asp#albums
Makes sense that, since most people work half days and can buy whatever it is they want on release date if they don't shop online much, or go into the nearest record store on their way home.

In Japan, their chart date is either Wednesday or Thursday.
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Old 22-09-2013, 17:05
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so...any news?

edit. I've just read this

Looks like a no4 album in the uk-- 4 top 5 albums in 6yrs(+national treasures10)-we are hardworking welsh boys aren't we-xx

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