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Your Dream Setlist (but with a twist)
It seems like with the talk of the TIMT re-release and Jimmy’s comments before the Absolute radio gig, we’ve reached the unofficial end of the RIF era.
As you know, one of the big critiques of Manics setlists is that loads of newer songs that are properly good just don’t get a look in, because the classics just won’t budge. To this day, the boys usually play at least 50% stuff from 1991-2000 (sometimes more.) No matter whether that makes your night or grinds your gears, I thought it might be fun to play a bit of a game. If you ignore the 90's, the boys now have an 8 album career stretching back over nearly 2 decades. And that gave me a bit of an idea. Just imagine for one night that the 90’s basically didn’t happen and Know Your Enemy was the Manics debut album. If that were true, what would your dream setlist be? The only rules are that you've got 20 songs and you can only choose songs released for the first time during or after 2001 (That means Motorcycle Emptiness 2003 version, or Masses as a bonus track are out. But Door to the River/Grace of God/Judge Yrself and other completely new songs on compilations are in.) Go!
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International Blue
Walk Me To The Bridge Your Love Alone Empty Souls Peeled Apples Intravenous Agnostic The Second Great Depression Jackie Collins Existential Question Time Dead Martyrs Marlon JD Some Kind of Nothingness Glasnost 30 Year War Rendition Europa Geht Durch Mich Me and Stephen Hawking Solitude Sometimes Is Hold Me Like A Heaven Show Me The Wonder In Eternity I tried to keep it relatively realistic i.e no rarities. I struggled to find a natural closer. |
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Are we allowed Razorblade Beat, Go Buzz Baby Go and Colt 45?
1) Found That Soul 2) Send Away The Tigers 3) The Next Jet To Leave Moscow 4) Distant Colours 5) Fragments 6) Some Kind Of Nothingness feat Ian McCulloch 7) Intravenous Agnostic 8) Glasnost 9) Rewind The Film feat Richard Hawley 10) Black Square 11) The Soulmates 12) Judge Yr'self 13) The Convalescent 14) Running Out Of Fantasy - acoustic 15) The Future Has Been Here 4 Ever - acoustic 16) 1985 17) Europa Geht Durch Mich 18) In Eternity 19) 30 Year War 20) Heyday Of The Blood Probs change a million times the more I think about it, but whatevs. EDIT: fuck, no Journal... what am I doing. Ah well..
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I think I’d lean towards Sex, Power, Love, Money or Billion Balconies. Edit - last song would be All We Make Is Entertainment. |
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1985
Found That Soul A Secret Society Europa Geht Durch Mich Intravenous Agnostic To Repel Ghosts Judge Yrself Sequels of Forgotten Wars All is Vanity Golden Platitudes Solitude Sometimes Is Bobby Untitled Epicentre Leviathan The Last Time I Saw Paris My Guernica Imperial Bodybags Freedom of Speech Won’t Feed My Children Daydreamer Eyes 30-Year War |
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[Bonus intro music before they take to the stage : Kodawari]
Mirror Gaze Intravenous Agnostic Misguided Missile Vision Blurred (Horrors cover) Broken Up Again Door to the River The Second Great Depression Dead Martyrs To Repel Ghosts Firefight Fear of Motion Heyday of the Blood ------------ (I Miss the) Tokyo Skyline (acoustic) Empty Motorcade (acoustic) Solitude Sometimes Is (acoustic) ------------- Black Square Bag Lady Sequels of Forgotten Wars 1985 Automatik Teknicolour
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International Blue
A Billion Balconies Facing the Sun Europa Geht Durch Mich Misguided Missile Marlon JD Hold Me Like A Heaven Some Kind of Nothingness Solitude Sometimes Is 4 Lonely Roads Divine Youth This Joke Sport Severed People Give In The Next Jet to Leave Moscow Black Square Don't Be Evil All We Make Is Entertainment There By the Grace of God A Song for the Sadness As Holy as the Soil Autumnsong A Song for a Departure This is The Day
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I like this :-) I've tried to do this from memory without checking album tracklists so there's probably plenty I've missed off...
1. Found That Soul 2. Jackie Collins' Existential Question Time 3. Europa Der Gecht 4. A Billion Balconies Facing the Sun 5. Hold Me Like a Heaven 6. 1985 7. Dead Martyrs 8. I am Just a Patsy 9. The Next Jet to Leave Moscow 10. Postcards From a Young Man 11. Send Away The Tigers 12. Cardiff Afterlife 13. Thirty Year War 14. As Holy as the Soil (Acoustic) 15. Baby Elian (Acoustic) 16. Peeled Apples 17. Futurology 18. 4Ever Delayed 19. Show Me the Wonder 20. Walk Me to the Bridge |
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This is really interesting! I thought choosing an opener would be easy (ish) but replacing a set-closer as iconic as Design ain't easy. I'll add my setlist here in a bit.
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Okay, I came up with a setlist for a December show...
I tried to build it assuming that there would be certain singles that would definitely appear, and that the band probably doesn't want to be playing too many fast songs in a row. Also, no Autumnsong. 1. Found That Soul 2 International Blue 3 Your Love Alone 4 Dreaming a City 5 Rewind The Film 6 Empty Souls 7 Some Kind of Nothingness 8 The Convalescent 9 Indian Summer 10 Broken Algorithms 11 30 Year War 12 Jackie Collins Existential Question Time 13 Fearless Punk Ballad 14 Last Christmas 15 Ghost of Christmas 16 Sex Power Love and Money 17 People Give In 18 Solitude Sometimes Is 19. All We Make Is Entertainment 20. Show Me The Wonder |
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I love the different approaches... ! Very considerate thinking of the band, whereas as it's all made-up anyway I just decided what they would play and they'd have to deal with it. lol.
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In the same vein as the St Davids Hall gig in 2002...
Acoustic Set 1. Rewind The Film 2. Door To The River 3. Ocean Spray 4. This Joke Sport Severed 5. Builder Of Routines 6. Fragments 7. Running Out Of Fantasy 8. The Left Behind Electric Set 09. International Blue 10. 1985 11. Forever Delayed 12. Send Away The Tigers 13. Freedom Of Speech Won't Feed My Children 14. Peeled Apples 15. Found That Soul 16. Judge Y'rself 17. Hold Me Like A Heaven 18. Golden Platitudes 19. In Eternity 20. 30 Year War
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James made a comment in recent interviews that he finds it hard to fit songs from newer albums into the natural flow of the set. Having done this, he might have a point! This was really tough.
Lifeblood is quite an interesting one. I started out (objectively) with about 6 LB songs in my set as they’ve been criminally underplayed. But as the set came together I ended up dropping them out. To get them to work as a setlist, you’d have to build everything around Lifeblood, (this is something I’d definitely pay to watch!) otherwise the difference between that and the heavier material seemed a bit too jarring. Anyway. I’ve gone with a full on 100mph opening, (this would have been a total moshfest back in the day.) I’ve dropped in a few breathers to give it some light and shade. There’s a few rarities in here along with some of the newer big singles. You could probably alternate INWJTEOL with Your Love Alone if you wanted, they’d both fit in that slot. I had to drop Firefight, which was hugely painful, but I wanted a palette cleanser with a Jimmy acoustic track after Bag Lady. I’ve had a tough time picking final tune like the rest of you. I had to imagine it quite a bit, because I’ve only ever seen it live once myself. But nailing my colours to the mast, I think ForeverDelayed would make a colossal set ender with all the confetti and shizz. In an alternate universe where it was properly released as a single (as it should have been), I reckon it could give ADFL a run for its money! Peeled Apples Found That Soul Judge Yrself Let’s Go To War Indian Summer 1985 It’s Not War Everyone Knows/Nobody Cares Marlon JD Dead Martyrs Solitude Sometimes Is Send Away the Tigers Walk Me To The Bridge There By The Grace of God Bag Lady ——— Facing Page: Top Left ——— To Repel Ghosts People Give In International Blue ForeverDelayed
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Interesting concept and makes for an interesting set list/playlist. Agree with others it is very difficult to choose a natural closer. In real terms you if you were the band, you would choose the most popular song in that period to finish with which arguably is YLAINE - but I am massively bored of that song so I left it out!
1. International Blue 2. Walk Me To The Bridge 3. Jackie Collins 4. The Next Jet to Leave Moscow 5. Distant Colours 6. Forever Delayed 7. Europa Geht Durch Mich 8. Peeled Apples 9. Send Away The Tigers 10. A Song For A Departure 11. People Give In 12. This Sullen Welsh Heart (Acoustic) 13. Baby Elian (Acoustic) 14. Me & Stephen Hawking 15. 1985 16. Golden Platitudes 17. Found That Soul 18. Marlon JD 19. 30 Year War 20. Hold Me Like A Heaven |
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Found that really tough, as it is hard imagining a set list that will flow. I too have gone with songs they have played over the years, even then it was pretty difficult though. I suppose mine would look something like:
1) Peeled Apples 2) International Blue 3) It's Not War 4) Found That Soul 5) Your Love Alone 6) Walk Me to the Bridge 7) There By the Grace of God 8) 1985 9) Rewind the Film 10)Futurology 11)Some Kind of Nothingness 12)Ocean Spray 13) Door to the River (Acoustic) 14) The View From Stow Hill (Acoustic) 15) Show me the Wonder 16) Let Robeson Sing 17) People Give in 18) 30 Year War 19) Hold Me Like a Heaven "We're the Manic Street Preachers from Wales. May your Gods be with you" 20) Autumn Song On reflection, I would pay decent money to watch that set list!! Struggled with a closing song as well and although I know it isn't popular in some quarters, Autumnsong is the only real one I thought would suit. Honourable mentions go to Judge Yourself, Song For Departure, To Repel Ghosts, Golden Platitudes, Red Rubber and Empty Motorcades, which I would all love to hear live some day. Last edited by tomd2103; 03-10-2018 at 14:30. |
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