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I'd either have liked to see them go in another new direction or simply do what they've done with the new record, but replace 10 of the tracks with good, well crafted, well thought out, catchy songs a la EMG.
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I think as Manics fans we definitely have a way of overcomplicating exactly what we want from the band. All we really want is good songs!
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It'd be easier to accept if they were trying something a bit different from the norm but this is the kind of stuff they were writing and writing well before. This is almost like the post-Richie Manics bread and butter type stuff.
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JFPL was no different, it just had Richey's lyrics and Albini's production to draw the curtain over the same old same old songwriting.
Peeled Apples had two verses, three choruses and a solo, with the chorus borrowed from The Human League. It's Not War has two verses, three choruses and a solo, with the chorus borrowed from Steps. You can go through the tracklisting like that and discover that JFPL has no more depth or well crafted songs than PFAYM, sometimes less so. Me & Stephen Hawking is a song whose second half is identical to its first half. Auto-Intoxication is a song whose second half is identical to its first half. All this pro-JFPL/anti-PFAYM talk makes no sense to me in terms of what the three remaining Manics have achieved with each. |
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You can please some of the people all of the time, and you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time.
You can please leak-listeners with 128kbps MP3s some of the time, and you can please non-leakers with CDs and/or Vinyl some of the time, but you can't please leak-listeners and non-leakers with both 128kbps MP3s and CDs and/or Vinyl all of the time. You can please The Holy Bible/Journal For Plague Lovers fans some of the time, and you can please Everything Must Go / This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours fans some of the time, but you can't please The Holy Bible/Journal For Plague Lovers fans and Everything Must Go / This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours fans all of the time. You can please... ok, I'm boring myself now.
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I just didn't like 'Lifeblood'. Everything else, I found at least one or two songs I liked. If not the entire album.
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You're also assuming that I think JFPL is a great record...
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Not so, but I can see why you'd think I was talking to you rather than those who are saying JFPL shows the Manics still have 'so much inventiveness' whereas PFAYM doesn't. |
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Not sure why 'style' is such a bad thing in terms of music appreciation either, surely it partially dictates our music taste? There are plenty of death metal bands that provide the 2 verse, 3 chorus and guitar solo method. I'm not into that. I am into 'Everything Must Go' though, funnily enough. I wonder how that works? Last edited by Daniel; 08-09-2010 at 17:00. |
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Fuck sake, why is it for some people on here that if you don't like something it's because it likes creativity or whatever, and if someone else likes it they're stupid or guilty of blind faith?
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I'm gonna stick my neck out and say that when PFAYM is out, if you get the deluxe edition and listen to its demo disc after JFPL's, you're gonna hear pretty much the same levels of craftmanship and inventiveness from the Manics. The production is where the magic happens. Many will say that Eringa and Lord-Alge didn't bring the magic on this occasion. Nearly everyone agrees that Albini did a great job with JFPL (and even then Eringa managed to mess with it - it's no surpise that as soon as a non-Albini track pops up on that album we get a poor man's Foo Fighters). Last edited by Dancing Kirby; 08-09-2010 at 17:57. |
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Care to explain why? No doubt you will have said so elsewhere but I can't be arsed trawling through weeks of posts to find it. Thanking you.
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