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21-09-2010, 03:40
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There By the Grace of God and Lifeblood b-sides
Hey guys i've been listening to these b-sides for the first time in a while. They are sooo good and should have been released as an album I think... maybe would be better than Lifeblood (which I like as well). Anyway, are these available from anywhere still? they really are very very good!
Automatik Teknicolour, It's All gone, Litany, No Jubilees, Dying Breeds (best Nicky sung song)... these are really good songs. Last edited by Vogon Poet; 21-09-2010 at 03:45. 
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21-09-2010, 06:13
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Available on the 2 CD Japanese reissue of Lifeblood, has almost all the b-sides from Forever Delayed and Lifeblood.
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21-09-2010, 09:40
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Hmm ok thanks.
I was kind of hoping for something on the net - even itunes. Thanks though!
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21-09-2010, 10:09
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Lifeblood singles tend to be rather cheap on eBay and Amazon Marketplace - I got Empty Souls CD1 from the latter for a bit over a pound and the vast majority of that was the postage.
And yes, the band's best b-sides periods. Amazing amazing amazing amazing amazing amazing amazing amazing. Would have loved a whole album done in the FD-era style (which I find stylistically slightly different to the LB period but that's just me). But as that's not reality, self-made comps have to do. Incidentally, regarding the 2-CD Japanese re-release of Lifeblood - where might one find that the cheapest?
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21-09-2010, 13:50
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Seconded on the Automatik love, it's one of my favourite songs to jump around to. And the lines of the chorus are exquisite 'until the darkness sparkles' it makes me tingly inside.
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27-08-2021, 21:12
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Listening to it now - as I do every 6 months or so - I know they hate it but it’s a huge, huge song. It’s almost 20 years old and I still think it’s such a lost song.
I think it’s the only song of theirs where the studio version is better than the live version. One of their better videos too. Edit - I mean TBTGOG not the b-sides. Although as said above AT is quality too.
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29-08-2021, 16:11
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I absolutely love Grace of God, one of my favourite Manics songs, but I still don't quite get how they arrived at the conclusion that it would be a more appropriate single than Automatik Teknicolour, which just screams 'single'.
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29-08-2021, 16:22
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The Jo Whiley live session version of There by the Grace of God really is the definitive version. The strings are gorgeous. Msppedia uploaded it to YouTube this past week.
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30-08-2021, 13:26
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30-08-2021, 13:42
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30-08-2021, 15:17
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You know what kinda makes me wonder? Why bands don't remix their old works more. The French band Indochine just did new mixes of all their singles since 2000. Sold them as a best of collection. It sounded immense. Wide, muscular, spectacular stuff. Of the 20 songs, maybe 4-5 were inferior, the rest were superior to the original mixes. It was a very interesting listen. And then we have stuff like the insaaaaaanely good b-sides the manics did in the Lifeblood era. Circa 20 songs of glacial beauty, incredible vocals, singular atmoshpere. But the production is, well, b-side production. What I wouldn't give for them to mix these songs again so they have a standardized and punchy sound. I know this is a dream, but add some instrumentation here and there to fill things out. A more nuanced intro with little fx. Write some new verses (some of these excellent songs suffer from having repeated first verses...), sequence it well -- and it'd be in my all time top 5. A personal favourite is All Alone Here. That "bethlehem radio" chorus just does something that few tracks do for me. And Dying Breeds... by god it's good.
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31-08-2021, 11:28
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The Richard Nixon b-sides always sounded fine to me, but yeah, the Empty Souls ones (and Japan bonuses) really feel like they were never considered for the album and so were hastily pulled out and mixed by someone's mate on his laptop the day before the single went off to be manufactured. I suppose a proper mastering job on the whole lot would at least help a little. I'd love to hear a proper punchy version of 'Litany'. Although 'Dying Breeds' works quite well with its slightly naff, lo-fi sound I think.
Also, how weird is it that their most electronic sounding era was the first time since Generation Terrorists to have no remixes? You'd think the album as a whole would be absolutely ripe for remixing! What is there in total? There by the Grace of God Automatik Teknicolour It's All Gone Unstoppable Salvation Happy Ending Forever Delayed Everyone Knows / Nobody Cares Everything Will Be Askew Road Quarantine (In My Place Of) Voodoo Polaroids All Alone Here No Jubilees Litany Dying Breeds Failure Bound The Soulmates Antarctic A Secret Society Firefight Picturesque 19 tracks plus Lifeblood itself and the two TBTGOG remixes plus 12 demos, 45 tracks, what a deluxe edition that would be. C'mon boys, you've already been bigging up the Lifeblood connection with TUVL (even described as a trilogy with Futurology!), what a time to revisit it and put this whole package out. Last edited by IntlDebris; 31-08-2021 at 11:34.
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31-08-2021, 12:01
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There's also Leviathan and their cover of June Bridges The Instrumental. I think we can include Door to The River and if we're being generous the 2003 version of Motorcycle Emptiness
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