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Re: Son Of Stopped's pairings - I can't choose between most of them because I really love both songs! Autumnsong and Emigre is too hard to call!
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I see TGW as just this perfect little album, great enjoyable music and lovely words. Fantastic.
SATT felt forced in parts, natural in others!
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SATT has its moments but its just a bit clumsy in places, as has been said its a bit forced, its largely an obvious attempt to shine up their past/reclaim chart glory. But doesn't really do either really successfully. Only YLALINE got anywhere chart wise(and I'm not even particularly keen on it as a single) Ok the album did better sales wise than Lifeblood, but is it a better album?I respect the fact that they've always wanted to reach a wider audience but I think there's a lot to be said for just making the music you want to make and seeing how the chips fall especially once you get into/or near your forties. |
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As I said earlier I think SATT is a fun record, don't understand why Autumnsong and Indian Summer didn't chart better but that's the British Public for you!
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an incredible choice
well maybe I'm too sentimental, but I will always love SATT because it's my first Manics' album, well because of it I began to be interested in a band.
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However all that said, The Great Western is probably the better album. This is mainly due to the lyrics being far better than those on SATT. The reason they lyrics are better for me is, as you say, because they appear much more honest and engaging. As for the songs, both albums have standout songs, but the fact that the lyrics seem so unstifled on Jamses album give more of a sense of freedom than any of the liberation aspired to on Tigers.
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For me, TGW is miles better than SATT. I've lost count of how many times i played TGW but i could count on one hand the number of times i've listened to SATT.
I never got into IKTZ at all, so that's the worst of the three for me. SATT has nothing to keep my interest at all...it's all far too obvious and the lyrics make me cringe at times. It reminds me of the darkness in places (I loved the darkness, but that's not the point!)
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Heartiest of thanks! I often babble shit so it's nice to know things can make sense to others from time to time. According to the Currently Listening thread you're taste isn't so shabby either!
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aww thanks, I tend to listen to what I like and then listen to that all the time (eg. jimmy eat world didn't leave my cd player for about 2 weeks constantly.) Randomly, this site has probably exposed me to more music than anything else...also the manics with their references to other bands. It's always interesting to hear what other bands people like.
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Agreed. I'd hate to see them obsessing about reaching the top of the charts but i guess once you've had a taste of it you want it back despite what Nicky said about not feeling comfortable when they're too popular
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I love certain parts of TGW and particularly when it is stripped back and vulnerable. But I also think that Nicky made a superior album with IKTZ. I agree with other people about it feeling as if he was less constrained and that he felt a certain amount of freedom; the lyrics and the style really suited him. I hope both Nicky and James can combine the best of both solo pieces and SATT and make an incredible album that is not a poor imitation of THB. Much as I love THB I don't want a re-run just for the sake of it.
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"The Great Western is better than SATT"
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