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Under neon loneliness... MOUNTAINBIKE WHAT?? Ever last loneliness MOUNTAINBIKE WHAT?? James will make it fit when he sings it. |
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I suspect he was trolling me
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I quite liked the band starting with "International Blue" on the RIF tour then seaming straight into ME but I'd agree that ME isn't the greatest of show starters...
Mind you, I'd probably got for something like Enola / Alone to kick off with.
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I'd love them to open with Walk Me To The Bridge for the weird "So long" at the start! It's a shame they won't touch THB material as "Faster" is the best opener they had. |
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I like the song, the video and the live versions and I don't mind where it is played in a set.
I think the lyrics and music are more profound than some recent songs and it seems to age well because it has meaning. I think a lot of bands try to emulate that now. I like that it's still played a lot and it's one of the first songs. |
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Open with Found That Soul, Yes (my personal favourite Manics song) or, IDEALLY, Stay Beautiful (IMAGINE THAT AS AN OPENER!!), play Faster as the last song of the main set before the acoustic break. After acoustic set, do ME, Motown Junk, You Love Us, Design For Life. Last edited by starfucker; 05-09-2018 at 17:50. |
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I like it but not LIVE lol
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I think if you're a Manics fan (long time listener, long time caller,) I can see why you might view it as overrated. Then again, I feel like this tune is the undroppable of all the undroppables. It's survived almost the entire history of the band in various forms so its significance is huge.
I've never thought of it as too long. To me the evidence of that is that any attempt to edit it turns out absolutely horribly. And if a song can whizz by in 6 minutes while feeling like 3, that's a freak of nature and deserves all the accolades it gets. Interestingly, I don't recall it ever being particularly highly spoken of until recently. Perhaps all the Richey stuff and the high charting EMG/TIMT stuff put a dampener on it in the 90's. But as the band ditched the punk sound, Motorcycle actually fitted so well with the widescreen pop of the late 90s that it just slotted in the setlist like it was written at that time. I think most true MSP fans have always known how good it was, but it never seemed to gain much notoriety with the casual crowd until recently. Unlike Design/Tolerate/YLA it didn't (seem to) get the same airplay so I think for casual fans, it may have only dawned on them that it was a classic in the last decade or so. It's a bit like how it took Everlong from its release in 1997, along with the Foos insistence of always playing it last to achieve that status. Anyway. Everlasting nothingness... Where the plot thickens for me is that the classic status seems to have come along with the current iteration of the song, the sped up post SATT version. I have to say that I'm less enthusiastic about the continued speeding up of the song. It's verging on being a bit pub band karaoke which sounds harsh, but it's the only way I can describe it. To give some context to that, Motorcycle was actually a breather in the set in the late 90's/early 00's (imagine that) because everything else was played at 100mph. Now it's mostly the other way round. I think that worked in the post SATT euphoria to a degree, but I would like to see it return to a slightly more graceful format. James clearly struggles with that big scream in the middle 8 these days, which doesn't really befit the elegance of the track. I also always felt it would make an amazing final tune at a gig, but I can only recall it ever hearing about them doing that a couple of times.
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