Manics on Vinyl

[Phil C]

Having bought a decent record player a couple of months ago I've slowly but surely succumbed to the vinyl bug. I'd been buying vinyl singles for ages but now I've started buying certain albums that I already have on CD to see how they sound.

At the moment I own three Manics albums on vinyl - 'Know Your Enemy' (new pressing), 'Journal' and 'Postcards'. I also have the special 'National Treasures' selection that came with Q Magazine.

I find listening on vinyl to be a very different experience, and it's not always easy to predict which tracks will benefit.

I need to listen to 'KYE' again before commenting, but 'Journal' and 'Postcards' definitely benefit from being played on vinyl instead of digitally. 'Journal' has a depth of sound, making each pluck of a guitar string sound 3D, and the drums tend to come across more powerfully. In contract, 'Postcards' has so many layers of sound that the vinyl can bring out better than the CD.

Next I want to get the new pressing of 'This Is My Truth' as I think the format will make more of a difference than on 'Everything Must Go', especially on tracks like 'Tolerate', 'You're Tender And You're Tired' and 'S.Y.M.M'.

Anyone else here a vinyl junkie? What are your thoughts on how Manics albums sound on record compared to CD? Which albums do you think benefit the most?

[Dancing Kirby]

If the remastered anniversary Genration Terrorists CD sounds as good as the original vinyl, that would do nicely.

Forever Delayed also sounds much better. Full length tracks too. Should have been a gatefold sleeve, though. JDB got a gatefold sleeve for his album.

Know Your Enemy was a waste of time. That was no surprise when it needed to be a double album. Eight tracks fitted on a single side of vinyl? Never going to end well. The re-release had the chance to put this right. Apparently, it didn't. I didn't bother to find out for myself.

This Is My Truth should also have been a double, really. It came out in an era when Oasis were afforded four sides for ten-track albums such as Standing On The Shoulder..

Lifeblood was a bad pressing. Rather muffled, if I remember right. I couldn't be bothered with anything after that.

[AK47]

Originally Posted by Phil C

Having bought a decent record player a couple of months ago I've slowly but surely succumbed to the vinyl bug. I'd been buying vinyl singles for ages but now I've started buying certain albums that I already have on CD to see how they sound.

At the moment I own three Manics albums on vinyl - 'Know Your Enemy' (new pressing), 'Journal' and 'Postcards'. I also have the special 'National Treasures' selection that came with Q Magazine.

I find listening on vinyl to be a very different experience, and it's not always easy to predict which tracks will benefit.

I need to listen to 'KYE' again before commenting, but 'Journal' and 'Postcards' definitely benefit from being played on vinyl instead of digitally. 'Journal' has a depth of sound, making each pluck of a guitar string sound 3D, and the drums tend to come across more powerfully. In contract, 'Postcards' has so many layers of sound that the vinyl can bring out better than the CD.

Next I want to get the new pressing of 'This Is My Truth' as I think the format will make more of a difference than on 'Everything Must Go', especially on tracks like 'Tolerate', 'You're Tender And You're Tired' and 'S.Y.M.M'.

Anyone else here a vinyl junkie? What are your thoughts on how Manics albums sound on record compared to CD? Which albums do you think benefit the most?

Journal and KYE sound fantastic on Vinyl, Phil C. I think a lot of comes down to the fact both albums were recorded in a relatively lo-fi manner. Now, I'm not someone who knows much about the recording processes and technical elements but I can definitely feel the difference with those two albums as opposed to LB on Vinyl. Songs such as TJSS and Ocean Spray definately have a lot more layers to the sound. It sounds beautiful on Vinyl. I have ordered TIMTTMY (New Pressing) and it will be interesting to see how that sounds also.

Postcards is one I've only heard at a friends on Vinyl but that sounded quite cool too. I do love Vinyl but it is an expensive habit to form.

[sculptureofabloke]

I need to actually listen to more of my Manics vinyl, still got a fair bit that I've not played and these days I don't have anything to play them on either. One day I wanna be able to say I've listened to every Manics thing I own that isn't sealed... I'm not sure if it's worth it though, it'd mean I'll have to listen to Autumnsong 12 times.

[Phil C]

Just bought the 'Revol' 10 inch. Forgot that it has a different live track to the CD - 'Life Becoming A Landslide' instead of 'Love's Sweet Exile'.

What Manics records do you all own?

[AK47]

Motown Junk - 7" re-release
KYE
LB
PFAYM
EMG
TITMTTMY (As of today)

EDIT:

I also own these. I thought you were referring to just albums.

The Masses Against The Classes 10"
Found That Soul 7"
Ocean Spray 12"
Let Robeson Sing 12"
Know Your Enemy 12" (re-issue, 180gr)
Underdogs 7"
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough 7"
Autumnsong 7"
Indian Summer 7"
Journal For Plague Lovers 12"
(It's Not War) Just The End Of Love 7"
Some Kind Of Nothingness 7"
Postcards From A Young Man (single) 7"
Postcards From A Young Man (album) 12"
Suicide Alley/New Art Riot E.P./Jackie Collins Existential Question Time 7"

[Phil C]

You Love Us (Heavenly) 12"
Roses In The Hospital 12"
Revol 12" (as of today)
Verses From The Holy Bible 7" flexi
The Masses Against The Classes 10"
Found That Soul 7"
Ocean Spray 12"
Let Robeson Sing 12"
Know Your Enemy 12" (re-issue, 180gr)
Underdogs 7"
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough 7"
Autumnsong 7"
Indian Summer 7"
Journal For Plague Lovers 12"
(It's Not War) Just The End Of Love 7"
Some Kind Of Nothingness 7"
Postcards From A Young Man (single) 7"
Postcards From A Young Man (album) 12"
Suicide Alley/New Art Riot E.P./Jackie Collins Existential Question Time 7" (from the 'National Treasures' box set)

Oh and additionally;
'National Treasures' (Q Magazine special edition)

JDB
The Great Western 12"
That's No Way To Tell A Lie 7"
An English Gentleman 2 x 7"

Nicky Wire
Break My Heart Slowly 7"

[nocultureicons]

Motown Junk 12"
You Love Us (Heavenly) 12"
Motorcycle Emptiness pic disc 12"
Love's Sweet Exile 12" (purple body)
Stay Beautiful 7"
Theme From Mash 12"
Slash n Burn 12"
From Despair to Where 12"
La Tristesse 12"
Roses in the Hospital 7"
Life Becoming a Landslide 12"
Revol 10"
Verses From The Holy Bible flexi
Everything Must Go (album) 12"
Found That Soul 7"
....

[Phil C]

Is there a particular piece of Manics vinyl you'd really love to get next? Getting 'Revol' makes me want 'Faster/PCP' next, although I'd love to track down a version of 'Feminine Is Beautiful' but I doubt that will ever happen.

Oh, and the furry cover 'Lipstick Traces' obviously

[nocultureicons]

Would definitely love Feminine is Beautiful but would also like the GT pic disc my girlfriend used to have before she decided to sell it on Ebay.

[Phil C]

Originally Posted by nocultureicons

Would definitely love Feminine is Beautiful but would also like the GT pic disc my girlfriend used to have before she decided to sell it on Ebay.

I saw that in Sister Ray records on Soho a couple of months ago and came so close to buying it...

[AK47]

Originally Posted by Phil C

Is there a particular piece of Manics vinyl you'd really love to get next? Getting 'Revol' makes me want 'Faster/PCP' next, although I'd love to track down a version of 'Feminine Is Beautiful' but I doubt that will ever happen.

Oh, and the furry cover 'Lipstick Traces' obviously

I'd love all of those Found a great appreciation of vinyl now.

[sculptureofabloke]

Ooh, I like lists.

Suicide Alley (plain paper sleeve)
New Art Riot (black/white label, black/yellow label, black/red label, blue/orange label, silver/green label, blue/white label, pink marble vinyl)
Motown Junk (12", 7")
UK Channel Boredom (7")
You Love Us (Heavenly) (7" promo, 12" promo, 7", 12")
Stay Beautiful (7" fully signed, 12", 12" posterbag)
Generation Terrorists (LP, picture disc, US LP, Spanish LP)
You Love Us (7", 12", Spanish 7" promo)
Slash N' Burn (7", 12", Spanish 7" promo, 12" promo)
Motorcycle Emptiness (7", 12", Spanish 7" promo)
Theme From MASH (7", 12", Dutch 7")
Little Baby Nothing (7")
From Despair To Where (12", Spanish 7" promo)
Gold Against The Soul (LP)
La Tristesse Durera (12")
Roses In The Hospital (Red 7", 12", 12" promo)
Life Becoming A Landslide (Pink 7", 12")
Symphony Of Tourette (7")
Faster/PCP (7", 10")
The Holy Bible (LP picture disc)
Revol (10")
She Is Suffering (10")
A Design For Life (7" jukebox promo, 12" promo)
Everything Must Go album (LP)
Everything Must Go single (7" jukebox promo, 12" Chemical Brothers remix, 12" promo)
Kevin Carter (12" promo)
Australia (7" jukebox promo, 12" Lionrock mix, 12" promo)
If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next (12" promo)
This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours (LP)
The Everlasting (7" jukebox promo, 12" promo)
You Stole The Sun From My Heart (12" promo)
Tsunami (12" promo 2 track, 12" promo 3 track)
The Masses Against The Classes (7" jukebox promo, 10")
Found That Soul (7")
So Why So Sad (12" Avalanches mix promo)
Know Your Enemy (LP)
Ocean Spray (12" Medicine mix promo)
Let Robeson Sing (12", 12" Felix Da Housecat mix promo)
There By The Grace Of God (12" Starecase mix promo)
Forever Delayed (LP)
Lipstick Traces (LP)
Lifeblood (LP)
Underdogs (7")
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough (7")
Send Away The Tigers (LP)
Autumnsong (7")
Indian Summer (7")
Journal For Plague Lovers (LP)
Cooking - Cleaning - Flower Arranging: Journal For Plague Lovers Remixes (LP)
(It's Not War) Just The End Of Love (7")
Postcards From A Young Man album (LP)
Some Kind Of Nothingness (7")
Postcards From A Young Man single (7")
National Treasures -Selected Singles (LP)

I want Feminine Is Beautiful but it's never cheap...

[Phil C]

Sculpture - no wonder you like this list, your vinyl collection kicks the arse of everyone else's

[sculptureofabloke]

Originally Posted by Phil C

Sculpture - no wonder you like this list, your vinyl collection kicks the arse of everyone else's

Ah, I've missed out on holidays and grown up things for it. You've got a few that I haven't too. Oh, and I forgot the mention the Holy Bible NME thing.