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Old 02-03-2019, 11:22
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One random observation: why does the author refer to Rob Stringer as ďthe living embodiment of capitalist evilĒ? Thatís a bit fucking strong, donít you think?

Head of major record label? Maybe just being tongue and cheek, she was writing for the NME after all. It's a magazine that always preferred snark and hyperbole over actual journalism.

Just a fun tidbit, Ms. Ellen was the journalist who 'reviewed' GT for the NME. Though she gave it 10/10, the review more like a press release for the band rather than a review of actual music. I don't think any song titles are even mentioned.
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Old 02-03-2019, 11:34
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Is there really some borderline or alluded to anti semetic hints in this book? It really wouldn't surprise me if there was but it would make it extremely fucking nasty.
And completely unnecessary.
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Old 02-03-2019, 13:11
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Is there really some borderline or alluded to anti semetic hints in this book? It really wouldn't surprise me if there was but it would make it extremely fucking nasty.
And completely unnecessary.
I would also like to know about this as i keep seeing it mentioned.
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Old 02-03-2019, 16:24
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People seem a little on edge about sharing questionable info publicly here so I won’t go into too much detail, but I was told the anti-semitism involves an important record A&R person at the time (who may or may not have been mentioned here already) and the use of an anti-Semitic trope in relation to him/her.
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Old 02-03-2019, 16:38
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Can people share on the whacky disappearance theories? Surely no issue tearing apart SHR's lack of logic (or lack of)?
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Old 02-03-2019, 17:25
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People seem a little on edge about sharing questionable info publicly here so I wonít go into too much detail, but I was told the anti-semitism involves an important record A&R person at the time (who may or may not have been mentioned here already) and the use of an anti-Semitic trope in relation to him/her.
Thanks, was just curiouse.
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Old 02-03-2019, 17:43
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Hmm. I would feel compelled to report her to whatever authorities or media or whoever can take her to task for such a pathetic racist comment if it's along the lines of what I am imagining.
Probably nothing can or will get done but I'm actually a bit shocked that it's been printed. I admit I'm only speculating at what it could say and even though I'm far from a politically correct person myself I certainly draw the line at using a person's race or religious background as a way to describe them in derogatory terms.

Maybe I'm being a little harsh due to my opinion on the rest of the book but I fail to see why this isn't a major issue as people are pulled up and chastised for a lot less!
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Old 02-03-2019, 17:50
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Just chipping in with a comment about the antisemitism thing. I noticed on SHR's facebook page that she gives her opinion about how the wealthy Zionists were partly responsible for the holocaust. Her entire facebook is full of 6th form quotes and pseudo-intellectual opinions about basic philosophy and politics. I'm not even sure she realises the weight of what she's saying with this racial slur. She seems very opinionated and her opinions are pretty immature.

Edit: Definitely NOT excusing her at all.
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Old 02-03-2019, 17:54
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Just chipping in with a comment about the antisemitism thing. I noticed on SHR's facebook page that she gives her opinion about how the wealthy Zionists were partly responsible for the holocaust. Her entire facebook is full of 6th form quotes and pseudo-intellectual opinions about basic philosophy and politics. I'm not even sure she realises the weight of what she's saying with this racial slur. She seems very opinionated and her opinions are pretty immature.

Edit: Definitely NOT excusing her at all.
This is so true, spot on post. Her views seem very black and white and we all know (or at least should) that this is not the case.
The immaturity is what I have noticed on her facebook.
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Just a quick question.
Have there been any interviews with Rachel regarding this book?
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Old 02-03-2019, 19:10
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Just a quick question.
Have there been any interviews with Rachel regarding this book?
I've seen her quoted in one or two interviews (one of the ones that's since been deleted). But not directly interviewed, no.
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Old 02-03-2019, 19:19
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Thank you!
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Old 02-03-2019, 20:07
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Her entire facebook is full of 6th form quotes and pseudo-intellectual opinions about basic philosophy and politics..
Cough* sounds like a Manic's fan then * cough

Just joking.....

I know I've looked, but maybe it's not best to be reposting what's on her Facebook? Privacy and all that.
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Old 02-03-2019, 20:13
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I didn't repost. That was me paraphrasing something I'd seen. Her facebook's public but I wouldn't repost anything directly, or link anyway. There isn't anything there that can't be found on all the other pages created by fans heavily influenced by the band *wink* (although they're usually considerably younger than SHR and have more than a basic grasp of existential philosophy, for example). I'll leave her to invading the privacy of others.
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Old 02-03-2019, 22:20
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Re: accusations of anti-Semitism in book, please keep in mind, I havenít read the book. Iím only relaying what I heard so I donít know if the authors even know if this individual is Jewish (Iíve been a Manics fan for a long time and I didnít know this person was Jewish until recently), they could be making this claim based on him being in a corporate position and nothing more.

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Just chipping in with a comment about the antisemitism thing. I noticed on SHR's facebook page that she gives her opinion about how the wealthy Zionists were partly responsible for the holocaust. Her entire facebook is full of 6th form quotes and pseudo-intellectual opinions about basic philosophy and politics. I'm not even sure she realises the weight of what she's saying with this racial slur. She seems very opinionated and her opinions are pretty immature.

Edit: Definitely NOT excusing her at all.
I only visited her FB page once or twice and didnít spend a great deal of time on it because I find her utterly boring and predictable. I wanted to check this out though because itís incredibly inflammatory and totally baseless, but it seems sheís blocked me. Ha! I guess she didnít like what I had to say about her on other FB Manics pages. The truth hurts, I guess. Lol!

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I know I've looked, but maybe it's not best to be reposting what's on her Facebook? Privacy and all that.
Her FB page is/was public! Are we not allowed to paraphrase public opinions too?
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