Record Store Day

[AK47]

It would be a really cool thing if the manics released a new track for this occassion 2013/14 is such a long time to wait for some new manics music

[starstruck]

well, if not a new track then certainly an exclusive 7" release for it - perfect time to throw 1985 or JCEQT out as a limited single, or if they are particularly lazy take one of the live download ep things and issue as a 10" or 12".

considering how the band "tried" to keep fighting for singles and people buying music, and the likes of The Rolling Stones, Bowie and even The Doors are big supporters of this, really peculiar that they are not more vocally involved.

the MJ 7" of last year wasn't directly related to it, was it?

[Bathtub]

I got my JFPL remix vinyl from Spillers a few years ago on record store day, but I think that was just about shifting stock.

I'd settle for a few choice singles re-released on 7". But yeah a one off new song, or cover would be a nice idea.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by starstruck

considering how the band "tried" to keep fighting for singles and people buying music, and the likes of The Rolling Stones, Bowie and even The Doors are big supporters of this, really peculiar that they are not more vocally involved.

Possibly because Record Store Day has long ago stopped being about fighting for the relevance of physical music and getting people to support independent record stores, and is instead all about rare limited releases on non-mainstream formats aimed solely for the people already in the record store nerd club.

I'm pretty alright about Manics not releasing some 15-year-old-song on a glitter cassette limited to 40 copies.

[Bathtub]

The vast majority of 2011 releases were on vinyl (a small amount of limited edition CDs make up the rest). It's barely cassette tape/N64 cartridge.

[2004567]

I dread to think what they'd release, something overpriced most likely. Don't get your hopes up...

[nocultureicons]

If there's something decent and unreleased, feel free to release it. Don't bother reissuing something from the past.

[starstruck]

Originally Posted by Bathtub

The vast majority of 2011 releases were on vinyl (a small amount of limited edition CDs make up the rest). It's barely cassette tape/N64 cartridge.

yeah, but of the three one should never have been a single (SKON) and the other two were released the wrong way around.

[Bathtub]

Originally Posted by starstruck

yeah, but of the three one should never have been a single (SKON) and the other two were released the wrong way around.

Sorry I meant releases for Record Store day in 2011, not MSP releases.

It was in response to Flint's claim that most of the releases were on non-mainstream formats. Vinyl is pretty much the bread and butter of a lot of indie shops so it's barely an obscure format in the context of record store day or as such an obtuse choice for limited releases.

[Flint]

Vinyl may be the fashionable format of choice for the music geek crowd, but it's not a mainstream format despite getting slightly more visible again recently. Considering Record Store Day is supposed to be about encouraging everyone to support their local independent music stores, targeting the vinyl fans is a bit off the target. It's preaching to the choir.

I'd also seriously contest the idea that vinyl is the bread and butter of indie shops, they may have become bigger again in the past few years but I'd very much doubt they make up most of the profit.

[Bathtub]

Originally Posted by Flint

Vinyl may be the fashionable format of choice for the music geek crowd, but it's not a mainstream format

It is still also the format of choice for plenty of sub-genres of dance music, jazz and old school soul.

But increasingly the only independent shops left are specialist anyway, they don't cater for mainstream music. So there's no point releasing a limited edition One Direction CD in independent record shops for people that are only going to visit once because 99.9% of the stock doesn't cater for their taste.

Originally Posted by Flint

I'd very much doubt they make up most of the profit.

I'd say the opposite. It is more profitable for an indie shop to sell a vinyl copy of an album than it is a CD copy of the same album.

Vinyl costs more to produce and sells for a higher wholesale price to the retailer, but the mark up in the shop is usually bigger than on a CD, and so the profit margin per unit is greater. And the labels don't usually insist on an immediate discount on the vinyl, that they might do on the CD copy.

[three_days]

Vinyl is getting bigger, even though it's a collectors market more or less. So I do approve of Manics and others releasing on the format.

I do agree with Flint on RSD though, it's become more about limited-run cash-in singles that become fetish objects for a week and then become ebay fodder than actually supporting record stores.

[Midlands_Junk]

I'd predict something lame and obvious to tie in 20 years of GT, if anything.
Something like reissuing 1000 ltd copies of THB on vinyl would be easy to do, and awesome. Won't happen though.