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Old 17-04-2018, 11:24
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I think it speaks to the variety of music the band has produced? Similarly I don't understand people who love every single song the band has produced and heaps hyperbolic praise on even the laziest of b-sides.

My bottom three are PFAYM, GATS and SATT. The reason is that to varying degrees these albums musical directions are guided by a cynical push for commercial success rather than an organic creative growth of band's sensibilities. Listening to it's not war is akin to ticking off a checklist of Manics clichιs required to have a top five single. The band are at their best when they're not trying to sound like what they believe people think the Manics should sound like.
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Old 17-04-2018, 14:06
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After all of this, I dug PFAYM out yesterday and listened to it through.
Had the same urge today. Fortunately I fought it off.

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I think it speaks to the variety of music the band has produced? Similarly I don't understand people who love every single song the band has produced and heaps hyperbolic praise on even the laziest of b-sides.

My bottom three are PFAYM, GATS and SATT. The reason is that to varying degrees these albums musical directions are guided by a cynical push for commercial success rather than an organic creative growth of band's sensibilities. Listening to it's not war is akin to ticking off a checklist of Manics clichιs required to have a top five single. The band are at their best when they're not trying to sound like what they believe people think the Manics should sound like.
My thoughts exactly. At least maybe the Manics will go down in musical history as one of the most sonically and stylistically inconsistent bands to ever spew out a Top 10 album or something.

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Old 17-04-2018, 16:43
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Tuesday sales.... I think by Wednesday they may have slipped to No.2 and will stay there until the final placing is announced on Friday
1 Manic Street Preachers - Resistance Is Futile (19.8k) *
2 Motion Picture Cast Recording - The Greatest Showman (17.8k)
3 Kylie Minogue - Golden (9.0k)
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Old 17-04-2018, 16:49
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Hmh hmh hmh... this is getting better now. Listening on my (very good) earphones. Better fidelity certainty does good things to this album.

Does anyone have a link to a download that is counted in their infernal chart? Sorta feel like I need to contribute.
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Old 17-04-2018, 17:11
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Tuesday sales.... I think by Wednesday they may have slipped to No.2 and will stay there until the final placing is announced on Friday
1 Manic Street Preachers - Resistance Is Futile (19.8k) *
2 Motion Picture Cast Recording - The Greatest Showman (17.8k)
3 Kylie Minogue - Golden (9.0k)
That's a total bummer, but it's also basically MSP in a nutshell. I'm just glad they can come out with albums that consistently reach the top 2-3 this late into their career. I will never understand the appeal of The Greatest Showman soundtrack, but it's also gone completely gangbusters here in the US as well.
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Old 17-04-2018, 17:52
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Old 17-04-2018, 18:05
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At first I thought In Eternity was this album's tribute to Richie, but then today it occurred to me it's actually a homage to David Bowie.

"Close the curtains in L.A. Open them up on a Berlin day"
"The king and queen of style"

Seems blindingly obvious now.
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Old 17-04-2018, 18:10
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So I finally figured out what's been bugging me about the left behind, it feels like a reworking of Jarvis single...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ON5qhdt1jy4
Reminds me of William's Lost Chords
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Old 17-04-2018, 18:18
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At first I thought In Eternity was this album's tribute to Richie, but then today it occurred to me it's actually a homage to David Bowie.

"Close the curtains in L.A. Open them up on a Berlin day"
"The king and queen of style"

Seems blindingly obvious now.
Not that song, but I believe The Left Behind actually is a tribute to Bowie
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Old 17-04-2018, 18:30
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I'm presuming there's no Japanese digital music stores that would offer the two Japan bonus tracks? Had a brief look at Amazon JP but they didn't seem to offer them.

I mean obviously buying them is going to be a pain in the arse anyway but just to get an idea.
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Old 17-04-2018, 18:54
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Not that song, but I believe The Left Behind actually is a tribute to Bowie
In Eternity is the one about Bowie.
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Old 17-04-2018, 19:04
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At first I thought In Eternity was this album's tribute to Richie, but then today it occurred to me it's actually a homage to David Bowie.

"Close the curtains in L.A. Open them up on a Berlin day"
"The king and queen of style"

Seems blindingly obvious now.
I think it's obvious too. I think James sounds like David Bowie at the end of the song.

On the Radio X track by track Nicky says 'In Eternity' is a tribute to David Bowie lyrically and musically with a lot of Station to Station in the song and harmonised drums. The song relays his music is there for eternity.
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Old 17-04-2018, 21:02
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At first I thought In Eternity was this album's tribute to Richie, but then today it occurred to me it's actually a homage to David Bowie.

"Close the curtains in L.A. Open them up on a Berlin day"
"The king and queen of style"

Seems blindingly obvious now.
I'll tell you what, I love how that song with that line pauses for a second and then goes "style", I don't know why but it's so awesome
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Old 17-04-2018, 21:30
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Trying to deduce if worth buying the 2CD set - I ration my extra fivers more these days. After a quick listen online, am not hugely enamoured with either Concrete or Soundtrack, so it's whether the demos fill in the gaps of what they were aiming for, but might have airbrushed out in the finished versions. Thoughts?
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Old 17-04-2018, 21:43
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Trying to deduce if worth buying the 2CD set - I ration my extra fivers more these days. After a quick listen online, am not hugely enamoured with either Concrete or Soundtrack, so it's whether the demos fill in the gaps of what they were aiming for, but might have airbrushed out in the finished versions. Thoughts?
These demos work well as a legitimate version of the album without all the Eringa gloss.

I don’t think they’re the original demos in a lot of cases though.
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