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Old 09-05-2014, 17:57
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the b-sides for SATT and PFAYM are better than the majority of those albums
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Some of the Manics' best songs are b-sides!!!!!
Yes indeed: Donkeys, Comfort Comes...

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They have admitted that Welcome to the deadzone should've been on SATT but wasn't ready. It's all opinion ..at the time they put the songs they thought were best on the album. They've probably changed their minds 20 times since then. I prefer a lot of the b-sides to autumnsong. In fact i prefer complete silence to autumnsong
I could have a slight (but only a slight) kick into my balls instead of Autumnsong and I'd be happier!


Actually they have some vision when they make an album, they follow it and it could happen that a song is good but end as a b-side because it's not fitting the concept. Moreover please don't forget they recorded new songs for b-sides in between two albums (this is a case of Donkeys and Comfort Comes which are better than whole GATS but they didn't exist at the time of GATS recording)

And there's another thing - good example is Comping Up by Suede - commercional songs on album, great moody songs on b-sides (Europe is Our Playground, This Time...)
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Old 09-05-2014, 18:07
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Agree Donkey.. just cos a song is a b-side doesn't make it inferior. B-side compilations (a rare breed soon) wouldn't sell. Oasis Masterplan is another example of b-sides better or equal to a-sides.
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Agree Donkey.. just cos a song is a b-side doesn't make it inferior. B-side compilations (a rare breed soon) wouldn't sell. Oasis Masterplan is another example of b-sides better or equal to a-sides.
Oasis are another band that have recorded some absolutely outstanding b-sides.

Lipstick Traces is a decent collection of b-sides too, but there's so many to choose from, it will always be hard to pick everyone's favourites. The band themselves do a disservice to them as they never get played live, when they really should get an airing.
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Old 09-05-2014, 19:17
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Oasis are another band that have recorded some absolutely outstanding b-sides.

Lipstick Traces is a decent collection of b-sides too, but there's so many to choose from, it will always be hard to pick everyone's favourites. The band themselves do a disservice to them as they never get played live, when they really should get an airing.
Yes indeed, I talked to Sean once and asked him what's the possiblity they would ever play Just a Kid live and he said: "maybe we'll tour Lipstick Traces one day" and I replied "oh, but that's not very likely, right?" and he only said who knows? but they somehow toured LT in 2003 a bit.

I think it's a shame Manics still pretend to be a big original band whereas they only release bad albums full of Nicky's music. I wish they made gigs like Suede with their album nights and this kind of things. And b-sides FD voting and then a gig. aaaaaaawww
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Lets not forget also that tolerate was going to be a B-Side and Be Natural the lead single. Be Natural, personally, is the better song.
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Lets not forget also that tolerate was going to be a B-Side and Be Natural the lead single. Be Natural, personally, is the better song.
Fuckin' wholeheartedly agree with that comment! Never liked Tolerate. Be Natural is a brilliant song that's in my list of top 20 MSP songs.
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Lets not forget also that tolerate was going to be a B-Side and Be Natural the lead single. Be Natural, personally, is the better song.
both c-sides in my ears
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I'll pretend I didn't hear that, lucky you're a Queen fan
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Fuckin' wholeheartedly agree with that comment! Never liked Tolerate. Be Natural is a brilliant song that's in my list of top 20 MSP songs.
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Lets not forget also that tolerate was going to be a B-Side and Be Natural the lead single. Be Natural, personally, is the better song.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong! Tolerate is amazing and Be Natural is duller than dishwater!
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I always thought the verses to Be Natural were very draggy/weak.

It simply cannot compete with Tolerate lyrically/originally (seemed to capture a slice of the times), the electric piano in the verses is genius.
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Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong! Tolerate is amazing and Be Natural is duller than dishwater!
How can it be wrong to have an opinion?
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sometimes opinions go against universal laws
there are no universal laws. We all have different ears.

anyway how can someone like a lyric contains lines like "if I can shoot rabbbits then I can shoot fascists" no matter what the historical context is - is beyond me
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