Forever Delayed - The Independent Manics Forum  

Go Back   Forever Delayed - The Independent Manics Forum > Manic Street Preachers > Manic Street Preachers Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 25-02-2011, 14:53
Marwood's Avatar
Marwood Marwood is offline
Knowlede Is Power
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: County Durham
Age: 43
Posts: 1,385
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirbeau View Post
Yeah excellent song. To be honest I just have a bizarre love for the album, it's sonically perfect (for me), big bass and crunch sounds, and just reminds me of the summer it came out, which was pretty glorious.
All of this, yes.

Regards,
Marwood.
__________________
Ready For Drowning
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 25-02-2011, 15:30
Scarecrow's Avatar
Scarecrow Scarecrow is offline
Winterlover
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Up North
Age: 39
Posts: 6,629
One of my favourites on the album, definitely one of my favourite singles from the last decade. Criminally underplayed live.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 25-02-2011, 15:44
Midlands_Junk's Avatar
Midlands_Junk Midlands_Junk is offline
I live to fall asleep
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Notts/Yorks
Posts: 4,940
Aye. A genuinely lovely song that nailed all that they were trying and failing to do on PFAYM.
And it pisses on Autumnsong from a great height. Put it back in the set please.
__________________

WITH GRACE WE WILL SUFFER
WITH GRACE WE SHALL RECOVER

Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 25-02-2011, 17:51
Porco's Avatar
Porco Porco is offline
Doors slowly closing
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 9,778
Gorgeous song, and I love the instrumental version too.
__________________
'Those Manics are great mun ent'it!' | Miyazaki-San, Arigato | POPCORN!


| PorcoTunes: SC=fdporco YT=PorcoForever |
---“...but the pigs are getting into our garden, and just digging holes, looking for truffles or something…"---
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 25-02-2011, 18:53
Littlesue's Avatar
Littlesue Littlesue is offline
Footprint of history
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The Black Country
Age: 63
Posts: 27,336
Quote:
Originally Posted by proevpete View Post
Some people might know me from my harsh criticism of PFAYM when it was released there in Sept (was it Sept - I don't even remember!!) I havent listened to the album since before Christmas. It just sounds too over produced for me with weak songs.

Anyhow one positive that has come out of this is that I have rediscovered SATT. I didn't overly listen to it at the time but I've found a new appreciation for it.

I really cannot stop listening to Indian Summer though. For me it is the nostalgic anthem that many of the songs from PFAYM are trying to me. Ok, so the lyric might not be a politically or socially charged as some of Nickys best, but the nostalgic melancholy of male friendship strikes a chord with me. Particularly the line, 'Maybe this time we'll kiss and we'll not shake hands,' and also them 'finding the reasons, the reasons that made us be'.

I really dig the video for it as well. JDB looks like he really digs that song when they are doing the performance bits in it.

Great solo in it too.
My second fave Manics track ever after Song For Departure
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 25-02-2011, 19:07
deadmartyr's Avatar
deadmartyr deadmartyr is offline
A self-made vacuum
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Bristol
Age: 39
Posts: 2,019
I love the track too, think it's the best track on SATT and agree with all of the postitive comments in this thread. "Maybe this time we'll kiss and we'll not shake hands" is the line that gets me the most in the song too, I like the video, and often watch this acoustic version.
__________________
I need a remedy, of diesel and dust. Something I can taste, with a fix I can trust. Another high, more potent than lust. Eating and repeating like the workings of rust and time.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 25-02-2011, 21:07
amay's Avatar
amay amay is offline
Freed from the century
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: London, UK
Age: 31
Posts: 669
Lovely song,one of my favourites. I also think SATT > PFAYM,although maybe that's just because SATT was the first album I listened to.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 25-02-2011, 21:20
Nature's Discontent Nature's Discontent is offline
Winterlover
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Back in the Eighties
Age: 34
Posts: 5,242
I was getting excited reading this thread, as no-one seemed to have mentioned its similarity to ADFL, which is a good thing.

And then I looked more closely and realised that both StarBright and Deets mentioned it, ah well...

Anyhow, probably my favourite off SATT. Criminally underrated really.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 25-02-2011, 21:29
The Gutless Wonder's Avatar
The Gutless Wonder The Gutless Wonder is offline
Bored out of my mind
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: World Headquarters of 'Team JDB' and CoJ
Posts: 42,921
Quote:
Originally Posted by Midlands_Junk View Post
Aye. A genuinely lovely song that nailed all that they were trying and failing to do on PFAYM.
And it pisses on Autumnsong from a great height. Put it back in the set please.
Autumnsong is my fave from SATT!
__________________
"Former glam-punk rocker James Dean Bradfield now looks like your friendly, slightly rumpled Welsh uncle who always brings you chocolate when he visits. That's not a bad thing." - Allister Thompson aka The Gateless Gate (Canadian musician)
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 25-02-2011, 22:07
everlasting's Avatar
everlasting everlasting is offline
I live to fall asleep
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Wakefield
Age: 41
Posts: 4,658
I used to think Indian Summer was very average and I used to skip it. WHen it was announced as a single I was like "what??!" so I played it some more to understand why. After a bunch of repeated listens I thought it was really good. Funnily enough, I had this as one of about 4 Manics songs on my Ipod when I was in Australia in 2008 backpacking and i played stuff a lot and a lovely Canadian girl I was seeing at the time was singing it all the time and she said it was a good song despite knowing nothing else by the Manics! This is my main memory and thought of Indian Summer The solo is very cool too
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 25-02-2011, 23:28
Mr Richey's Avatar
Mr Richey Mr Richey is offline
Stretched out in the sun
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Birmingham, UK
Age: 40
Posts: 10,834
I never understood why people said it was a rip-off of "A Design For Life". What, it has the same time signature?! So do a lot of other songs!! I personally think "Indian Summer" is one of the few tracks from SATT that is truly enjoyable. A big thumbs-up from me.
__________________
This Is My Truth So Shut Your Face
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 26-02-2011, 00:45
Noisy Cat's Avatar
Noisy Cat Noisy Cat is offline
Desire on its knees
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: London
Posts: 836
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Richey View Post
I never understood why people said it was a rip-off of "A Design For Life". What, it has the same time signature?! So do a lot of other songs!!
Exactly! By their logic every song in a standard 4/4 signature is a rip-off of eachother.
__________________
31-5-96 Newport 21-10-96 Exeter 12-12-96 Cardiff 9-4-97 Plymouth 24-5-97 Mcr 23-8-97 Reading 20-9-98 Port Talbot 19-12-98 Exeter 21-12-98 Cardiff 27-3-99 Brussels 28-3-99 Paris 26-6-99 Glasto 22-8-99 V99 31-12-99 Cardiff 8-3-01 Cardiff 27-03-01 Mcr 28-3-01 Mcr 23-8-01 Cardiff 25-8-01 Reading 12-9-01 Ldn 18-8-02 V2002 6-12-02 Mcr 29-6-03 Glasto 11-7-03 Mcr 17-12-04 Mcr 9-4-05 Liverpool 7-10-06 Sheffield 17-5-07 Sheffield 8-12-07 Birmingham 21-8-08 Newport 28-5-09 Ldn 12-10-10 Derby 16-10-10 Lincoln 31-10-10 Leicester 1-11-10 Cambridge 22-1-11 Ldn 19-5-11 Wolves 17-12-11 Ldn 27-9-13 Mcr 31-3-14 Leicester 6-4-14 Wolves 8-7-14 Ldn 11-12-14 Mcr 16-12-14 Ldn 17-12-14 Ldn 30-5-15 Edinburgh 29-5-16 Swansea 18-10-17 Ldn 4-5-18 Ldn 19-6-18 Ldn 31-5-19 Leicester 3-12-21 Ldn
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 26-02-2011, 01:29
Simon Simon is offline
Bored of being bored
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 42
Posts: 1,881
Well it's 2/2 time really though, innit?

Theres a few little similarities, to Design for Life - enough for people to pick up on obviously. Similar beat and time signature, arpeggio guitar, similar falling string break in the middle, lush orchestration. Not enough for it to be a rip-off, just a few shared characteristics is all. It makes a nice 'sister' song. Beautiful.

Last edited by Simon; 26-02-2011 at 01:47.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 26-02-2011, 09:02
StarBright's Avatar
StarBright StarBright is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: In a shoebox full of memories
Posts: 350
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon View Post
Well it's 2/2 time really though, innit?

Theres a few little similarities, to Design for Life - enough for people to pick up on obviously. Similar beat and time signature, arpeggio guitar, similar falling string break in the middle, lush orchestration. Not enough for it to be a rip-off, just a few shared characteristics is all. It makes a nice 'sister' song. Beautiful.
it sounds odd when both are played live together though. IMHO.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 26-02-2011, 09:19
Simon Simon is offline
Bored of being bored
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 42
Posts: 1,881
Quote:
Originally Posted by StarBright View Post
it sounds odd when both are played live together though. IMHO.
From what I've heard, Indian Summer never sounded that great live.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 18:37.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.