Forever Delayed - The Independent Manics Forum  

Go Back   Forever Delayed - The Independent Manics Forum > Manic Street Preachers > Manic Street Preachers Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 21-04-2017, 11:36
AK47's Avatar
AK47 AK47 is offline
A self-made vacuum
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: In a leather bound book of the worlds greatest secrets
Posts: 2,253
* The re-recording of Take The Skinheads Bowling - pointless
* Failure Bound
*Engage With Your Shadow
* Fans kissing seans ass on Twitter.
* The fact GATS is ignored like a Ginger Stepchild.
__________________
LET'S GO TO WAR!
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 21-04-2017, 12:28
Porco's Avatar
Porco Porco is offline
Doors slowly closing
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 8,638
I've mentioned most of my pet-cringes one thread or another, and I want to preface these by underlining how small a fraction these things are compared with the overwhelming love I have for most of the Manics' work and my respect for them as a band. Anyway, I think these are my main ones...

• The main riff of Autumnsong. Just that bit too derivative for me, and I don't like the particular 'squeally' tone of it for some reason. I actually quite like most of the track's music apart from that.
• Engage With Your Shadow
• All direct references to bluetooth, twitter, facebook, google etc. in lyrics.
• (fake) Sitar and strings on live Tsunami. It's one of my favourite Manics tracks so I guess I'm extra-sensitive to it, and they do the job, but they sound (too) fake and perfunctory live, whereas on the recorded track they are central to the gorgeousness of the music.
• The Underdogs edit. Thi-. Wish they'd release a fixed version. I never hated the track itself, which is why I still care.
• The continuous dismissal of Lifeblood and all 'lost their way/mis-step/dark days of...' type-references from both the band and anyone else. In the words of King Arthur*, 'You make me sad.'
• This thread! We fans are not above being cringeworthy ourselves upon occasion! Myself included.

*A version of, at least...
__________________
'Those Manics are great mun ent'it!' | Miyazaki-San, Arigato | MANIC STREET POPCORN!


"Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter!"
| Porco Tunes: soundcloud.com/fdporco |

Last edited by Porco; 21-04-2017 at 12:34.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 21-04-2017, 16:52
NasalScarecrow's Avatar
NasalScarecrow NasalScarecrow is offline
Winterlover
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Hull/Manchester
Age: 32
Posts: 7,053
A few songs (Autumnsong, It's Not War, Show Me the Wonder, Your Love Alone, Together Stronger et al), and Nicky's insistence that certain songs are angry/political/loaded with meaning when they just... aren't.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 21-04-2017, 16:57
sculptureofabloke's Avatar
sculptureofabloke sculptureofabloke is offline
Stretched out in the sun
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Manchester
Age: 34
Posts: 13,886
The "I will not give up and I will not give in" bit of Postcards From A Young Man, a bit. James does sound determined, I'll give him that. Just not giving in doesn't seem a viable option right now.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by allisvanity View Post
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Manics fans, never fucking happy.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 21-04-2017, 20:48
Nobody's Avatar
Nobody Nobody is offline
A self-made vacuum
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Sheffield, UK
Posts: 2,380
These are more of rants then cringes
  • the vocal overdubbing on PFAYM, sounds likes theres a bit of feedback, makes the album sounds quite poorly produced. Also theres a bit of feedback on LBN which has always bothered me.
  • The Richey excerpt on Askew Road just seem a bit overbearing, sampling themselves.
  • Lack of GATS reissue creates a gap in the re-issues.
  • SATT 3 disc reissue not being packaged the same way as the previous ones. I wish they could be more consistent.
  • THB 20th edition - Booklet having overlapping images. Contains tracks that have nothing to do with the album (such as YLU), would prefer tracks that give me some background into the making of the album like demos. EMG20 bothered me also.
  • Both Autumnsong videos.
  • Backing out of releasing Forever Delayed as a single
  • Renaming it to 4ever Delayed
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 27-04-2017, 05:39
slop101 slop101 is offline
I am purity, they call me perverted
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: CA, US
Posts: 133
No live albums from one of the best live bands.

I could've sworn O2 would've gotten a nice CD release, that concert seemed made for one, but nope - just random bonus tracks here and there that were a pain in the arse to collect.

Speaking of pain in the arse to collect - all their B-sides and non-album tracks. They have so many and they're so great, but good luck getting finding them all in one easy, convenient place.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 27-04-2017, 10:53
everlasting's Avatar
everlasting everlasting is offline
I live to fall asleep
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Wakefield
Age: 35
Posts: 4,184
Erm, not sure really. Some of their singles choices but I still like the songs on some level. Their constant putting down of Lifeblood gets annoying to hear, but then I feel the same for GATS.
Never got the fan dislike for It's Not War, it's an okay song, not amazing, just nothing special. Erm.... I don't know, nothing makes me cringe. Some of Nicky's songs I guess, like....erm...what was it called....Engage with your Shadow, although me and my girlfriend find it hilarious and sometimes randomly sing it for a laugh
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 28-04-2017, 13:11
Jimi A's Avatar
Jimi A Jimi A is offline
Freed from the century
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Nottingscum
Age: 35
Posts: 501
** Nicky's description of an upcoming album versus how it actually turns out.
** The band's continued need to feel the need to address the 'masses' with dross songs like Together Stronger (C'mon Wales) - which was great live that time in Newport - and albums such as SATT and likely the upcoming one when they are at their best being the confident outsiders. Eg. THB, Futurology, GT
** Their obsession with putting out v-neck merch. I think this may be JDB's fault.
** Nicky's patchwork sailor suit, even though it was designed by Red Curtis.
** The way that DFL has become a happy clappy ending where fans are invoted to singalong.
** Their fans refusual to engage with any other act other than them unless there is some sort of convoluted link. (Note: I'm aware this is both a gross generalisation and not the band's fault)
__________________
"As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being" - Carl Jung
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 28-04-2017, 16:22
Symmanine's Avatar
Symmanine Symmanine is offline
A self-made vacuum
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Denmark
Age: 34
Posts: 2,444
Freedom of speech won't feed my children

With that impressive catalouge of songs, not making more varied set lists
__________________
I'm perpetually stuck in a sepia film
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 28-04-2017, 16:30
Bruisedshins Bruisedshins is offline
Born to end
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 37
Not cringey so much as disappointing.

The epic solo in Intravenous Agnostic that used to play when you entered one of the old Manics forums. I can't recall the name of the forum but it was just prior to the release of Know Your Enemy and that ferocious noise coupled with all the anticipation of the album harking back to the Holy Bible created such great expectancy. Then the album came out and it was full of filler.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 29-04-2017, 14:29
Ken Korda's Avatar
Ken Korda Ken Korda is offline
Stretched out in the sun
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: None of your business, you ignorant dwarf!
Posts: 13,311
'Worms in the garden more real than a McDonalds.'
__________________
~
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 29-04-2017, 15:52
Porco's Avatar
Porco Porco is offline
Doors slowly closing
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 8,638
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruisedshins View Post
Not cringey so much as disappointing.

The epic solo in Intravenous Agnostic that used to play when you entered one of the old Manics forums. I can't recall the name of the forum but it was just prior to the release of Know Your Enemy and that ferocious noise coupled with all the anticipation of the album harking back to the Holy Bible created such great expectancy. Then the album came out and it was full of filler.
That was on the official manics website, it was awesome.
__________________
'Those Manics are great mun ent'it!' | Miyazaki-San, Arigato | MANIC STREET POPCORN!


"Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter!"
| Porco Tunes: soundcloud.com/fdporco |
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 29-04-2017, 16:09
Bruisedshins Bruisedshins is offline
Born to end
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Porco View Post
That was on the official manics website, it was awesome.
Cheers for clearing that one up. It was a brilliant way to build up the album and easily the best part of it by some way too.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 29-04-2017, 17:18
Mr Richey's Avatar
Mr Richey Mr Richey is offline
Stretched out in the sun
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: The Black Country
Age: 34
Posts: 10,538
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruisedshins View Post
Not cringey so much as disappointing.

The epic solo in Intravenous Agnostic that used to play when you entered one of the old Manics forums. I can't recall the name of the forum but it was just prior to the release of Know Your Enemy and that ferocious noise coupled with all the anticipation of the album harking back to the Holy Bible created such great expectancy. Then the album came out and it was full of filler.
Agreed. Even worse is the fact that "Intravenous Agnostic" is one of my favourite Manics tunes but one of the worst lyrics Wire has ever written.
__________________
This Is My Truth So Shut Your Face
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 29-04-2017, 21:52
Glyn Glyn is offline
Freed from the century
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 500
I think it's because of a self aware Welsh thing but any time James has to pronounce 'here/hear' always takes me out of the moment briefly:

'Hyur I am in Amsterdam, I like it hyur they speak my language'
'Right hyur in my dirty face'
'I hope you hyur this nice and clear'

And so on ,and so on etc.

Last edited by Glyn; 29-04-2017 at 22:01.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 21:19.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.