Postcards From A Young Man Thread

[Marat Sar]

Postcards is so unsexy, it somehow manages to make the concept of it being a day today unsexy. The bare "dayness" of it... the mind-numbing daytimenessness - not only in the strings production or the god-awful guitars, but in it's very essence.

SKON was a good idea and I can sometimes salvage that idea, when I am experiencing the wreck of it's reality - the unnecessary dueting, the gospel choir.

Those arpeggios in INWJTEOL do have a trace of exhuberance about them.

I somehow appear to be able to actually enjoy most of Golden Platitudes, until the guitar crunching begins. I can even handle the first crunching... episode?.... because I know it will end, and then I will get some more actual song. (Crunching is not song. How it doesn't ruin Ocean Spray is a miracle). But the second crunching is beyond hope and only leads to more crunching.

The Future Has Been Here 4 Ever should be a much better song, but isn't, because it should be sexy - what with the the bouncy horns and the low sung nicky vocal - but can't, because it's on "pfaym!" - an abbreviation so adept at encapsulating the essence and sound of pfaym... pfayem... pfayyyyeyeynmmm....

Hazelton Avenue, I think I Found It and All We Make Is Entertainment are the moments where the Manics could do with teenage sons or daugthers the most. So they could thell their dads they have Hughesovkas and Next Jets To Moscow in them still and should be doing those instead of pfaymming around.

We're pfaymming....
hope you like pfaymming too,
we're pfaymmingwe'repfaymmingwe'repfaymming...

Now, let us take an even closer look at The P.F.A.Y.M. At le pfayemme...
1) Without the "y", the simple "PFAM!" sounds like a softer, failed version of PAM! Like the gunshot PAM! but with blanks. Like electric guitars, but with the way they sound on All We Make Is Entertainment.
2) Yet the "y" adds so much! PFAYEM... It's that grotesque, almost Cartmanlike effect... like they know how shitty it is, but are doing it anyway. Which, if I remember correctly, was the original concept behind PFAYM. We could be making great music right now. We could be making stuff like Red Rubber. We could easily be working on RTF and Futurology already, but we are so obsessed with failure, we won't! Instead, we'll pfaym for a year, and then we'll pfaym some more with National Treasures! Then we'll take a two-year pfaym.

The most insulting part of the whole PFAYM affair is that they already did it four ears ealier. They called it SATT then, and it was bad, but not as bad, because it wasn't happening again.

[Scarecrow]

[Marat Sar]

Originally Posted by NasalScarecrow

Did I hit the spliff too hard there? Oh god, tell me I didn't hit the spliff too hard!

[Bathtub]

Originally Posted by Marat Sar

Hazelton Avenue, I think I Found It and All We Make Is Entertainment

By some stretch these are three of the worst songs that the Manics have ever put on an album.

I Think I Found It is particularly grim. That lyric, “I walked to the sea/threw a pebble in for you and me” is appalling.

[allisvanity]

Originally Posted by Bathtub

By some stretch these are three of the worst songs that the Manics have ever put on an album.

I Think I Found It is particularly grim. That lyric, “I walked to the sea/threw a pebble in for you and me” is appalling.

Oh God, it's even worse written down.

I really hope that one big positive come out of PFAYM, that they realise they will never enjoy "mass-communication" on the level that the did from 1996-2000 ever again. So hopefully they will never try again.

[UEF]

One lass crack at mass-turbation?

[revcheese]

Originally Posted by Bathtub

By some stretch these are three of the worst songs that the Manics have ever put on an album.

I Think I Found It is particularly grim. That lyric, “I walked to the sea/threw a pebble in for you and me” is appalling.

I can't recall that song in any way, shape or form. I'm sure I've listened to it a few times, but I have no idea what happens in it.

Originally Posted by allisvanity

Oh God, it's even worse written down.

I really hope that one big positive come out of PFAYM, that they realise they will never enjoy "mass-communication" on the level that the did from 1996-2000 ever again. So hopefully they will never try again.

They'll only ever do mass communication good if they stop putting emphasis on mass communication.

[Takk]

Well I love I think I found it so

[centralscrutiniser]

I listened to it again - turns out it's even better a few years later. Second half stronger than the first.

[tomd2103]

It's an album I still go back to. I do think they overdid the strings, gospel choirs etc. and it may have been better with a less 'polished' feel (and probably without The Descent), but I think it's far from one of their worst albums.

[cool-groovey-morning-fine]

I think Broken Up Again is better than anything that made it on to the album. That said, I like postcards well enough, it has some good tunes.

[Nature's Discontent]

Originally Posted by cool-groovey-morning-fine

I think Broken Up Again is better than anything that made it on to the album.

This, this, and this.

[Marwood]

Originally Posted by cool-groovey-morning-fine

I think Broken Up Again is better than anything that made it on to the album.

Yep yep yep. This.

[AK47]

I Think I Found it is great and the way James delivers the lyrics is wonderful.

[Geranium Terrorists]

Originally Posted by Marat Sar

Postcards is so unsexy, it somehow manages to make the concept of it being a day today unsexy. The bare "dayness" of it... the mind-numbing daytimenessness - not only in the strings production or the god-awful guitars, but in it's very essence.

SKON was a good idea and I can sometimes salvage that idea, when I am experiencing the wreck of it's reality - the unnecessary dueting, the gospel choir.

Those arpeggios in INWJTEOL do have a trace of exhuberance about them.

I somehow appear to be able to actually enjoy most of Golden Platitudes, until the guitar crunching begins. I can even handle the first crunching... episode?.... because I know it will end, and then I will get some more actual song. (Crunching is not song. How it doesn't ruin Ocean Spray is a miracle). But the second crunching is beyond hope and only leads to more crunching.

The Future Has Been Here 4 Ever should be a much better song, but isn't, because it should be sexy - what with the the bouncy horns and the low sung nicky vocal - but can't, because it's on "pfaym!" - an abbreviation so adept at encapsulating the essence and sound of pfaym... pfayem... pfayyyyeyeynmmm....

Hazelton Avenue, I think I Found It and All We Make Is Entertainment are the moments where the Manics could do with teenage sons or daugthers the most. So they could thell their dads they have Hughesovkas and Next Jets To Moscow in them still and should be doing those instead of pfaymming around.

We're pfaymming....
hope you like pfaymming too,
we're pfaymmingwe'repfaymmingwe'repfaymming...

Now, let us take an even closer look at The P.F.A.Y.M. At le pfayemme...
1) Without the "y", the simple "PFAM!" sounds like a softer, failed version of PAM! Like the gunshot PAM! but with blanks. Like electric guitars, but with the way they sound on All We Make Is Entertainment.
2) Yet the "y" adds so much! PFAYEM... It's that grotesque, almost Cartmanlike effect... like they know how shitty it is, but are doing it anyway. Which, if I remember correctly, was the original concept behind PFAYM. We could be making great music right now. We could be making stuff like Red Rubber. We could easily be working on RTF and Futurology already, but we are so obsessed with failure, we won't! Instead, we'll pfaym for a year, and then we'll pfaym some more with National Treasures! Then we'll take a two-year pfaym.

The most insulting part of the whole PFAYM affair is that they already did it four ears ealier. They called it SATT then, and it was bad, but not as bad, because it wasn't happening again.

This is brilliant!