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Old 21-11-2018, 12:09
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I remember everyone being really excited she was involved at the time, and gutted it was relgated to a b-side!?!
yeah, I don't remember hearing about "quite a lot" of fans being unhappy about her being on it - maybe they all complained to her directly?!

I for one love everything about BHFTY and would have been happy for it to have been on the album.
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Old 21-11-2018, 12:42
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Old 24-11-2018, 14:55
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Dammit, it looks like I'm gonna have to get an external cd drive and look into (incredibly booooring) ripping software, because getting manics stuff lossless, digital and legal is harder than buying hardware to do it.

I motivate myself with the idea of using disc three's remastered b-sides and the (probably) ill-fitting disc 1 Prologue to History to make a Prologue to History EP.

The running order they've put the b-sides in is pretty telling. I always like rarities compilations because it forces the band to spill the beans on how they'd sequence this stuff. (Lending an air of "canon" to my own attempts). Check this out!

1. Prologue to History
2. Montana / Autumn / 78
3. Black Holes for the Young
4. Valley Boy
5. Socialist Serenade
6. Buildings for Dead People

This looks *sweet* to me, with the tracks mastered and chunky. They really didn't release a single uninteresting track those 2 years. The TIMTTMY b-sides also exhibit the massive musical scope and instrumental experimentalism of the era. Buildings and Valley Boy have some of their best and most sweeping guitar work. Yet retain that sad oddness (weird vocal effects and melodies and lyrics) of the album. This EP is gonna be a real treat.

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Old 24-11-2018, 15:27
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Broken stereo unit thing, but everything these days I play through my PS3. Looking forward to ripping the discs and getting playlist of the album as remembered tracklist, then the b-sides, the rehearsal stuff and the remixes to end.
That's my plan for Christmas Day but look forward to your comments when it's released in a few weeks.
If it was any other album or band I just wouldn't go to these lengths, and would probably listen to those discs as is.
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Old 25-11-2018, 21:50
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David Owens from Wales Online has tweeted this:

Tomorrow morning at 9.30am on @WalesOnline we have some massive @Manics news for you. Don't miss it.

So I take it this will be the Welsh Truth date then!
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Old 25-11-2018, 22:07
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Nobody Loves You has been returned to its proper place I bet.
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Old 28-11-2018, 13:45
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The double LP includes the remastered album and a digital download code, as well as a limited edition poster.
From the Cardiff email just now. Not sure if that was news but I remember someone asking
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Old 28-11-2018, 16:32
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Ha yes -- thanks!

I see it on the site now too. But:

1. "A digital download code" is very vague. What if it's just mp3's?
2. Only with vinyl editions (I don't want vinyls, just want my PC computer to play lossless audio)

I'm gonna check major sites like hd tracks etc, after release, maybe it's up there...

Still, this is another manics ancientism. Radiohead have 24 bit wavs on release, just click and buy.
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Old 28-11-2018, 20:43
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Ha yes -- thanks!

I see it on the site now too. But:

1. "A digital download code" is very vague. What if it's just mp3's?
2. Only with vinyl editions (I don't want vinyls, just want my PC computer to play lossless audio)

I'm gonna check major sites like hd tracks etc, after release, maybe it's up there...

Still, this is another manics ancientism. Radiohead have 24 bit wavs on release, just click and buy.
I think the included SATT vinyl reissue download code was for 24bit WAVs if I recall correctly, so fingers crossed.

Qobuz and 7Digital may well have the new release as lossless files (don't recall/know where you are/what stores you have access to?).
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Old 29-11-2018, 08:25
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With only a week left to change their minds again, it seems they might have settled on dumping Nobody Loved You on the end of the album on digital versions but removing it completely from physical ones (unless as a hidden track).

PTH as track 12 and NLY as track 14 only makes the whole thing more stupid.
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Old 29-11-2018, 09:00
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With only a week left to change their minds again, it seems they might have settled on dumping Nobody Loved You on the end of the album on digital versions but removing it completely from physical ones (unless as a hidden track).

PTH as track 12 and NLY as track 14 only makes the whole thing more stupid.
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Old 29-11-2018, 12:48
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Reviews starting to appear

http://drownedinsound.com/releases/2...eviews/4152157

Apparently Naysmith's Wurlitzer is more prominent on the rehearsal tracks. Anyone know how to get a refund from the manicsstore ?
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None of the live tracks which also appeared across various formats of This Is My Truth...'s singles are included, which is a shame as there was no better live band anywhere on the planet at this point.
Fair point in that review about the lack of live songs in the set. I'd go one step further to say given the high likelihood of HQ recordings, it's kinda disappointing not to see a DVD of live stuff. Even just the Jools/TFI stuff would have been mega, but would love to see a bit more of the arena/festival dates (T in the Park) especially.
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Old 02-12-2018, 08:11
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Yeah I’m surprised at the lack of videos, particularly as they had a lot of TV coverage and played a shitload of gigs around the TIMT era. I thought Tolerate and Ready For Drowning from the 20th Century DVD would be lifted at least.

Given how Nicky has said that his archives hold more TIMT stuff than anything else, I wonder if we’ll get a 30-year edition in 2028. We had a ten and 20 for THB so no reason for him not to revisit this in years to come.
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