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Old 27-07-2022, 13:19
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Album Sequencing

Across the whole of the Manics back catalogue of studio albums, do you have a particular album that you think would benefit from the tracklist being sequenced differently?

I'm willing to allow one track from that period that wasn't included on the album, to be included.
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Old 27-07-2022, 13:49
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Probably GT is the biggest offender, that's a complete mess and would benefit from being split in two so that we have two short albums that flow well rather than one big one that jus splashes around like a seal in a kiddie pool.
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Old 27-07-2022, 13:52
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All right I'll give the last one a go.

Into The Waves Of Love
Afterending
The Secret He Had Missed
Don't Let The Night Divide Us
Orwellian
Wait-

-I'll be back in the week for this. You need them all with titles facing you.
And obviously never thought about changing tracklisting before.
Great thread idea!
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Old 27-07-2022, 15:49
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Probably GT is the biggest offender, that's a complete mess and would benefit from being split in two so that we have two short albums that flow well rather than one big one that jus splashes around like a seal in a kiddie pool.
I'm looking forward to GT35 now...

Nicky "We always imagined this album to be two individual albums so here's how it was always meant to be"
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Old 27-07-2022, 17:26
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I'm looking forward to GT35 now...

Nicky "We always imagined this album to be two individual albums so here's how it was always meant to be"

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Originally Posted by Jimbo (1992)
We’ll release one double album that goes to Number One worldwide. One album, then we split. If it doesn’t work, we split anyway. Either way, after one album, we’re finished
That's that then
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Old 27-07-2022, 17:58
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What they really meant was that they'll make one album and they'll split it in 35 years time.

By double album, I always assumed they meant that it took up two vinyls. Is that silly?
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Old 27-07-2022, 18:15
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By double album, I always assumed they meant that it took up two vinyls. Is that silly?
I mean it is silly given it was 1992 and by that point we had evolved as a species past vinyls and their restrictions, but yes that's the reason why some have referred to it as a double album.

More on topic but aside from the obvious rework candidate of replacing 2/3 of SATT with its b-sides, the only relatively small tweak (per the OP) I can think of that would be most beneficial would be to elevate "Bag Lady" as a proper album track and either drop one of the lesser albums tracks ("Pretension/Repulsion" or something) as the hidden track or off the album completely to form an EP with the Japanese bonus tracks and "Vision Blurred".

Otherwise I think they've done sequencing pretty well across their whole career - including the two bundles of chaos with GT and KYE, where their madness kind of becomes their identity.
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Old 28-07-2022, 09:45
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I much prefer RIF with this tracklisting:


International Blue
Dylan & Caitlin
Liverpool Revisited
Mirror Gaze
Sequels of Forgotten Wars
Hold Me Like a Heaven
In Eternity
A Song for the Sadness
Holding Patterns
Concrete Fields
Bonus: Soundtrack to Complete Withdrawal

I also think Lifeblood flows better without A Song For Departure
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I did this is with a friend years ago on "Truth"... I will break the rule with only one-album-track. Sorry, not sorry.

Retitled:

"No truce with the furies"

1. Prolouge To History
2. Ready For Drowning
3. Black Holes For The Young
4. Tsunami (faster studio version)
5. The Everlasting
6. Montana/Autumn/78
7. Be Natural
8. You Stole The Sun From My Heart
9. You're Tender And You're Tired
10. Black Dog On My Shoulder
11. Nobody Loved You
12. If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next
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This is the RiF playlist I made yesterday. I find it a much more enjoyable listen

1. International Blue
2. Distant Colours
3. Sequels of Forgotten Wars
4. Mirror Gaze
5. Dylan and Caitlin
6. Hold Me Like a Heaven
7. Broken Algorithms
8. In Eternity
9. Holding Patterns
10. A Soundtrack to Complete Withdrawal
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Old 28-07-2022, 11:11
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I did a playlist of Gold Against The Soul where it started off baggy then got more Pop Metal.

Flares Against The Soul

1. Are Mother's Saints?
2. Roses In The Hospital
3. La Tristesse Durea (Scream To A Sigh)
4. Life Becoming A Landslide
5. Nostalgia Pushed
6. From Despair To Where
7. Gold Against The Soul
8. Yourself
9. Symphony of Tourette
10. Sleepflower

The other playlist had more b-sides. This... Is a horrible tracklisting! Others seem to be really getting it.
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An attempt to polish Postcards:

1. Postcards from a Young Man
2. All We Make Is Entertainment
3. Some Kind of Nothingness
4. Don't Be Evil
5. I Know The Numbers
6. Hazelton Avenue
7. Auto-Intoxication
8. I Think I Found It
9. A Billion Balconies Facing the Sun
10. The Descent (Pages 1 & 2)
11. Golden Platitudes / The Future Has Been Here 4Ever (hidden track)

Opening with It's Not War has always killed this album for me - as a "shot of mass communication" the title track is such a more obvious opener, followed by Entertainment as the cynical follow up statement. I Know The Numbers needs to be elevated to the main tracklist in place of It's Not War, and Golden Platitudes has the big Hey Jude ending for the obvious closer.
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Old 30-07-2022, 16:11
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This depends whether the process allows us to get them to go back into the studio to re-record the whole of GT with an actual band or not. If so, I could get it down to a magnificent 10 track album.
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It wasn't until EMG that they fell into the sequencing formula that they kept then for the rest of their career:

Best opener
Best song
Second or third best song
Second or third best song
Nice album track
Acousticy song
Album track
Album track
Album track
Album track
Album track
Great closer that probably should have been a single or Wire's terrible vocal
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Old 01-08-2022, 13:14
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I did this is with a friend years ago on "Truth"... I will break the rule with only one-album-track. Sorry, not sorry.

Retitled:

"No truce with the furies"

1. Prolouge To History
2. Ready For Drowning
3. Black Holes For The Young
4. Tsunami (faster studio version)
5. The Everlasting
6. Montana/Autumn/78
7. Be Natural
8. You Stole The Sun From My Heart
9. You're Tender And You're Tired
10. Black Dog On My Shoulder
11. Nobody Loved You
12. If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next
This is a great tracklist! Had this on at work earlier, you have finally cracked the code of getting Prologue To History to fit on TIMT! Im now imagining an alternate reality where this is the record they released, with Be Natural as the first single. Just needs Born A Girl as a hidden track.
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