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Old 20-12-2011, 12:51
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National Treasures gig: rate the songs!

Well, just what it says, rate the songs as you heard them live in the O2

You Stole The Sun From My Heart 7 (audio wasn't right at the time)
Love's Sweet Exile 7
Motorcycle Emptiness 8
(It's Not War) Just The End Of Love 7
Everything Must Go 8
She is Suffering 7
From Despair To Where 8
Autumnsong 6
Empty Souls 8 (more powerful than it was ever before)
Let Robeson Sing 5
Faster 9 (pure genius!)
Life Becoming a Landslide 7
Kevin Carter 8
Little Baby Nothing 8
This Is The Day 7
The Everlasting 9 (absolutely fantastic!)
Indian Summer 6
Stay Beautiful 8
If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next 8

Australia 7
La Tristesse Durera (Scream to a Sigh) 7
Found That Soul 8
There by the Grace of God 9 (shame they hate this song: just wonderful)
Some Kind Of Nothingness 8
You Love Us 9
Suicide is Painless (Theme from MASH) 7
Revol 9 (FILA FILA!!!!)
The Love Of Richard Nixon 8 (much better than in the Lifeblood-tour)
Ocean Spray 9 (best rendition ever)
The Masses Against the Classes 8
Roses in the Hospital 7
So Why So Sad 6 (just doesn't work for me)
Postcards From A Young Man 7
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough 6 (yes, she ruined it for me-brilliant song though)
Slash 'n' Burn 7
Tsunami 8
Motown Junk 9
A Design For Life 9

Conclusion: we saw a band in full form! Almost perfect gig! (9/10)
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Old 20-12-2011, 13:03
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You Stole The Sun From My Heart 8
Love's Sweet Exile 7
Motorcycle Emptiness 7
(It's Not War) Just The End Of Love 7
Everything Must Go 8
She is Suffering 6 (VID RUINED IT)
From Despair To Where 8
Autumnsong 7
Empty Souls 10 (SUPERB!!!)
Let Robeson Sing 4 (Ruined)
Faster 9
Life Becoming a Landslide 7
Kevin Carter 8
Little Baby Nothing 9 (Better with just James)
This Is The Day 7
The Everlasting 6
Indian Summer 6
Stay Beautiful 7 (slowed right down)
If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next 6

Australia 8
La Tristesse Durera (Scream to a Sigh) 5
Found That Soul 8
There by the Grace of God 10 (HIGHLIGHT OF THE NIGHT!!)
Some Kind Of Nothingness 9
You Love Us 7
Suicide is Painless (Theme from MASH) 9
Revol 9
The Love Of Richard Nixon 9
Ocean Spray 9
The Masses Against the Classes 9
Roses in the Hospital 8
So Why So Sad 6
Postcards From A Young Man 8
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough 7
Slash 'n' Burn 6
Tsunami 9
Motown Junk 8
A Design For Life 8
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Old 20-12-2011, 13:19
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Here's my take on things:

You Stole The Sun From My Heart 7 - fairly standard fare.
Love's Sweet Exile 9 - a real rarity, enjoyed it.
Motorcycle Emptiness 6 - bored of this one.
(It's Not War) Just The End Of Love 8 - always like it live.
Everything Must Go 7 - yawn.
She is Suffering 5 - YAWN.
From Despair To Where 9 - a definite highlight
Autumnsong 0 - no comment.
Empty Souls 9 - brilliant, always happy to hear a bit of LB.
Let Robeson Sing 8.5 - beautifully done, although the chorus didn't seem right.
Faster 7 - bored of it and plodded badly.
Life Becoming a Landslide 8 - powerful
Kevin Carter 7 - enjoyed it more than normal
Little Baby Nothing 5 - expected a guest for this one so switched off instead.
This Is The Day 9 - sounds brilliant live!
The Everlasting 9 - ditto above, enjoyed them wheeling it out again
Indian Summer 7 - nice to hear it again
Stay Beautiful 9.5 - one of my all time favourites, bit slower than normal, though
If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next 6 - bored of this

Australia 6 - don't remember much because I was starting to feel very tired
La Tristesse Durera (Scream to a Sigh) 4 - rubbish, never liked this live
Found That Soul 8.5 - excellent
There by the Grace of God 7 - Sean Read made some stupid mistakes on this song, really messed it up for me
Some Kind Of Nothingness 8 - Nicky kissing the dog at the end was a poignant reference to Molly
You Love Us 7 - bored of it
Suicide is Painless (Theme from MASH) 9 - always good to hear this
Revol 9 - First time I've heard it and it was amazing
The Love Of Richard Nixon 9 - Superb but the chorus synths sounded VERY strange in places.
Ocean Spray 9 - Almost shed a few tears during the trumpet intro, wow.
The Masses Against the Classes 9 - loved this!
Roses in the Hospital 9 - again, one of my favourite live songs
So Why So Sad 9.5 - Haven't heard this since 2001, loved it.
Postcards From A Young Man 10 - I think I lost my voice during this from shouting every word at the top of my voice.
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough 6 - Gold-toothed Nina ruined it for me.
Slash 'n' Burn 6 - I was starting to switch off around this point so don't remember much!
Tsunami 6 - See above
Motown Junk 6 - See above
A Design For Life 9 - Brilliant end to the gig, but fairly standard fare (always love hearing it live, though).

Overall: 8.5/10 - Brilliant gig, just a bit too long and in all honesty, I've heard some songs too many times. The occasion was better than the gig, if that makes sense.
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Old 20-12-2011, 14:10
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Marks out of 10:

You Stole The Sun From My Heart 7 (Nice start to the show, but things weren't quite in full swing yet)
Love's Sweet Exile 8 (Now they were - lot's of fun this)
Motorcycle Emptiness 9 (Just pure good)
(It's Not War) Just The End Of Love 7 (I usually detest this song - not tonight)
Everything Must Go 8
She is Suffering 6 (Just chugged along a bit - wasn't wild about it)
From Despair To Where 8 (Great on the night)
Autumnsong 6 (Will always be crap)
Empty Souls 7 (Welcome back, old friend)
Let Robeson Sing 8 (Gruff was ace)
Faster 10 (INCREDIBLE)
Life Becoming a Landslide 7
Kevin Carter 8
Little Baby Nothing 7
This Is The Day 8 (Surprising little pop-rock beast when played live)
The Everlasting 8 (Lovely)
Indian Summer 7
Stay Beautiful 9 (Didn't feel slowed down on the night, it felt fucking marvellous)
If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next 9

Australia 7 (Meh)
La Tristesse Durera 8
Found That Soul 9 (SHOW ME THE WONDAAH)
There by the Grace of God 15 (Christ, that was absolutely awesome)
Some Kind Of Nothingness 7
You Love Us 9
Suicide is Painless 8
Revol 10,0000000000 (Where the fuck did that come from? Everything went ape-shit)
The Love Of Richard Nixon 8 (Still has a charm of it's own)
Ocean Spray 8 (This song usually bores me, but sounded better than ever tonight)
The Masses Against the Classes 8
Roses in the Hospital 7
So Why So Sad 7 (Meh)
Postcards From A Young Man 8 (I do have a soft spot for this one)
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough 8 (Nina was awesome - deal with it)
Slash 'n' Burn 7
Tsunami 9 (One of the Manics greatest moments)
Motown Junk 9
A Design For Life 10 (Such a great rendition. Felt like a huge celebration)
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Old 20-12-2011, 14:28
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I can't do them individually, but Revol was fab. It's not normally in my top 10, but it was really something that night. The crowd were going nuts. Just perfect.
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Old 20-12-2011, 15:15
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Gruff taking a hammering so far!

It was alright from the vid I saw but his vocals do have a tendency to make me feel sleepy! Sorry!
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Old 20-12-2011, 15:35
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Gruff taking a hammering so far!

It was alright from the vid I saw but his vocals do have a tendency to make me feel sleepy! Sorry!
It's his thick Welsh accent and being Welsh I love it! The way he said hello when James told him to say something was so funny
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Old 20-12-2011, 20:42
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You Stole The Sun From My Heart 9 - not a song I thought I'd rate this highly... It probably wasn't this good, technically, but I was so excited and it had such energy that I ended up loving it.
Love's Sweet Exile 8 - not as great as I hoped it would be, but still means a lot to me as it was the first Manics song I heard- and this being my first concert it was pretty significant
Motorcycle Emptiness 8
(It's Not War) Just The End Of Love 8
Everything Must Go 7 - not my fave song, but its significance really showed
She is Suffering 8 - liked the intro, and I think it ended up more intense live
From Despair To Where 8
Autumnsong 4
Empty Souls 8
Let Robeson Sing 6 - liked Gruff's vocals on it
Faster 10 - brilliance
Life Becoming a Landslide 9 - the chorus usually bugs me, but live it was great. Think it was slowed down, but I think that just made it more powerful
Kevin Carter 9 - one of my favourite Manics songs, and it sounded great
Little Baby Nothing 7
This Is The Day 8 1/2 - even better live
The Everlasting 6 - lasts forever
Indian Summer 7
Stay Beautiful 8 - didn't even notice it was slowed, just a lot of fun
If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next 8

Australia 4 - urgh, this song...
La Tristesse Durera (Scream to a Sigh) 7 - love the song, think my expectations were too high
Found That Soul 8
There by the Grace of God 9
Some Kind Of Nothingness 7
You Love Us 10 - whoa
Suicide is Painless (Theme from MASH) 7 - I think I've listened to it too much and gotten slightly bored, used to be a fave. Can't fault the performance though.
Revol 100 - fucking brilliant, can't even describe it. When the guitar solo started I go goosebumps.
The Love Of Richard Nixon 7 - excellent parts and flatter parts
Ocean Spray 8 - actually made me like the song
The Masses Against the Classes 8
Roses in the Hospital 8
So Why So Sad 4 - James was right...
Postcards From A Young Man 9 - thought this was really powerful
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough 7 - dislike Nina immensely, but it worked well enough
Slash 'n' Burn 5 - only because the "live to kill" switch distracted me the whole time
Tsunami 6 - good version, but I'm not a fan of the song
Motown Junk 9 - fantastic, really intense. Wish they'd ended on this.
A Design For Life 6 - I just didn't get it, I'm shit at getting emotions from crowds so it just sounded washed out to me, didn't seem like a special rendition at all and I've overlistened to the song.

Overall, I liked the first set better (I seem to be the only one...). Fantastic songs in the second half, but more songs I disliked.
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Old 20-12-2011, 20:52
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You Stole The Sun From My Heart 7
Love's Sweet Exile 6
Motorcycle Emptiness 9
(It's Not War) Just The End Of Love 8
Everything Must Go 7
She is Suffering 8
From Despair To Where 7
Autumnsong 7
Empty Souls 8
Let Robeson Sing 6
Faster 9
Life Becoming a Landslide 7
Kevin Carter 7
Little Baby Nothing 8
This Is The Day 8
The Everlasting 8
Indian Summer 7
Stay Beautiful 7
If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next 8

Australia 8
La Tristesse Durera (Scream to a Sigh) 7
Found That Soul 8
There by the Grace of God 8
Some Kind Of Nothingness 7
You Love Us 9
Suicide is Painless 8
Revol 10
The Love Of Richard Nixon 6
Ocean Spray 8
The Masses Against the Classes 8
Roses in the Hospital 7
So Why So Sad 6
Postcards From A Young Man 7
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough 8
Slash 'n' Burn 9
Tsunami 8
Motown Junk 9
A Design For Life 9

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You Stole The Sun From My Heart 8
Love's Sweet Exile 8 (the video!)
Motorcycle Emptiness 8
(It's Not War) Just The End Of Love 6
Everything Must Go 8
She is Suffering 7 (wish it had worked better than it did)
From Despair To Where 9
Autumnsong 10 (cos of our dancing, not the actual song or performance)
Empty Souls 10(see above)
Let Robeson Sing 9
Faster 9
Life Becoming a Landslide 8
Kevin Carter 7
Little Baby Nothing 8
This Is The Day 9 (because the video made us all teary)
The Everlasting 6 (went on way too long)
Indian Summer 7
Stay Beautiful 10
If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next 8

Australia 7
La Tristesse Durera (Scream to a Sigh) 9
Found That Soul 9
There by the Grace of God 7
Some Kind Of Nothingness 7
You Love Us 10
Suicide is Painless (Theme from MASH) 8
Revol 1000000000000
The Love Of Richard Nixon 10
Ocean Spray 8
The Masses Against the Classes 10
Roses in the Hospital 10
So Why So Sad 6
Postcards From A Young Man -1
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough 7 (she was a bit painful)
Slash 'n' Burn 9
Tsunami 7
Motown Junk 9
A Design For Life 10
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Autumnsong 10 (cos of our dancing, not the actual song or performance)
Empty Souls 10(see above)
Revol 1000000000000
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Old 20-12-2011, 23:22
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I can't do them individually, but Revol was fab. It's not normally in my top 10, but it was really something that night. The crowd were going nuts. Just perfect.
Yeah, I feel like sometimes you can over-analyse something!
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Gruff taking a hammering so far!

It was alright from the vid I saw but his vocals do have a tendency to make me feel sleepy! Sorry!
I like his voice, but I don't really see what he added to it. James drowned him out with backing vocals too.
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You Stole The Sun From My Heart 10 (Just booming! Perfect opener)
Love's Sweet Exile 9
Motorcycle Emptiness 8 (Love the intro!!! Needed more spinning / shouting! Haha)
(It's Not War) Just The End Of Love 6 (Very meh live song)
Everything Must Go 8 (good solid performance)
She is Suffering 10 (despite Reedy fucking up multiple times... the atmosphere and synths of the song bloody scared me!)
From Despair To Where (I could feel Autumnsong coming so felt so sick i paid no attention to FDTW :/ )
Autumnsong (Being really ill in the middle of 20000 people... worst experience of my life unfortunately! :'( )
Empty Souls 9 (Brilliant feel to the songs in an arena!)
Let Robeson Sing 4 (I think james went to the bar during the song, let alone the crowd!!)
Faster 7 (Slightly slow now its being played with a click track
Life Becoming a Landslide 7
Kevin Carter 8
Little Baby Nothing 5 (Bores me...)
This Is The Day 9 (Beautiful live... but lead guitar was almost non existant)
The Everlasting 10 (WOWWOWOWOWOW)
Indian Summer 5 (Booooorrriiinggg)
Stay Beautiful 9 (WHY DONT YOU JUST FUCK OFF!!!!)
If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next 10 (turned round to see everyone out of there seats singing along!)

Australia 5 (Ruined by the lack of texture in the verses!)
La Tristesse Durera (Scream to a Sigh) 7
Found That Soul 8
There by the Grace of God 10 (Absolutely fantastic! Such an atmospheric song!)
Some Kind Of Nothingness 8
You Love Us 9
Suicide is Painless (Theme from MASH) 7
Revol 8
The Love Of Richard Nixon 6
Ocean Spray 8
The Masses Against the Classes 8
Roses in the Hospital 6
So Why So Sad 4 (very... strange)
Postcards From A Young Man 8
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough 5 (ruined by Nina im afraid... she sounds horrible live)
Slash 'n' Burn 8
Tsunami 9 (Great tempo!!!)
Motown Junk 9
A Design For Life 10 (Not the best performance but always phenomenal, let alone infront of 20000 people!!!! Best moment of my life in contrast to earlier in the gig haha)
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Old 27-04-2012, 15:41
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You Stole The Sun From My Heart 9
Love's Sweet Exile 8
Motorcycle Emptiness 10
(It's Not War) Just The End Of Love 8
Everything Must Go 7
She is Suffering 8
From Despair To Where 9
Autumnsong 7
Empty Souls 8
Let Robeson Sing 9
Faster 10
Life Becoming a Landslide 8
Kevin Carter 8
Little Baby Nothing 8
This Is The Day 7
The Everlasting 5 (Needs to be acoustic)
Indian Summer 7
Stay Beautiful 9
If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next 9

Australia 7
La Tristesse Durera (Scream to a Sigh) 7
Found That Soul 9
There by the Grace of God 8
Some Kind Of Nothingness 7
You Love Us 9
Suicide is Painless (Theme from MASH) 7
Revol 9
The Love Of Richard Nixon 7
Ocean Spray 8
The Masses Against the Classes 8
Roses in the Hospital 9
So Why So Sad 5
Postcards From A Young Man 9
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough 9
Slash 'n' Burn 8
Tsunami 8
Motown Junk 9
A Design For Life 10
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