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Old 19-04-2019, 22:39
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Richard Fry, Richey’s friend from school who is discussed and quoted in the book, has filmed a video addressing how he was both portrayed in the book as well as being misquoted.

https://youtu.be/RrQmeRbzZIE
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Old 20-04-2019, 05:33
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Not saying that that is an indication of truth, but Simon Price noted it too in Everything.
Slideling.... long time,no? I’ve been waiting for you to add to the discussion and glad u r back in general, cheers!

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Old 20-04-2019, 22:49
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I definitely second whoever said that Rosie Dunn should have been given the job, a tabloid crime writer who has been through treatment for alcohol use - it’d be great!
This woman is awful! Sharing stories about his treatment in The Priory? Some friend! I'm really disappointed that any of this was made public and this Rosie Dunn woman should be ashamed of herself for violating a patient's right to privacy regardless of whether that person is dead or not. It sets a dangerous precedent when people can't depend on the discretion of those they meet in therapy.


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^ poor guy - and the one thing I forgot to mention about the penultimate chapter, was the bit about the authors being enthusiastically approached by people, who then declined to talk. If everyone you meet is an asshole...
I only posted it as an example of them stretching and inventing the truth to paint a certain picture of Richey. I can't imagine he's the only one who participated that's pissed off about being misrepresented and misquoted or the stories they've shared being completely re-worked to fit a certain narrative. Apparently he's writing a book himself which I presume is about his friendship with RE. Best of luck to him!

They probably were willing to talk about him especially given his sister's involvement, but it's obvious the Manics and Co. weren't happy about this book so these "insiders" withdrew their participation.
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Old 21-04-2019, 07:15
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^ yeah, fair point. I might have been reaching for the one or two interesting bits, as her contribution actually was new and insightful. But it is a gross invasion of privacy.

I’ve finished the book, the last chapter started out promisingly, but, like so many others, degenerated into ludicrous speculation. Murder? Where the hell did that come from? Ever heard of Ocram’s Razor? Sadly, Richey is almost certainly dead and buried in the sediment of the Severn. It isn’t beyond the realm of possibility that he did plan a disappearance and made it to Goa or wherever, but why speculate about a murder when there is more than enough evidence to suggest suicide?

I’m glad I read the book for myself, but I shall certainly be leaving a detailed one-star review on Amazon!
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Old 21-04-2019, 07:18
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Oh, also, did anyone else get the distinct impression that Jo was not directly involved in this book? Which surely makes publishing her letters to Rachel an invasion of her privacy too?
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Old 21-04-2019, 18:35
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This woman is awful! Sharing stories about his treatment in The Priory? Some friend! I'm really disappointed that any of this was made public and this Rosie Dunn woman should be ashamed of herself for violating a patient's right to privacy regardless of whether that person is dead or not. It sets a dangerous precedent when people can't depend on the discretion of those they meet in therapy.
Well, she did work for The S*n, so I wouldn't expect anything less.
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Old 21-04-2019, 20:02
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Oh, also, did anyone else get the distinct impression that Jo was not directly involved in this book? Which surely makes publishing her letters to Rachel an invasion of her privacy too?
She didn’t want to participate because, according to SHR, “she wanted to keep her memories of Richey to herself”, but if that’s the case, why allow personal letters he sent to be used if she wants to keep her memories of him to herself? As for Richey’s letters to her and quoting her letters to Rachel, apparently she gave them permission to use them, but the correspondences with Rachel seem to end in 1998. There was that part about what was in the box he left for her, but it’s hard to tell if it’s from a recent correspondence or before 1998. I got the impression she seemed kind of a little meh about what he left in the box (I actually dug the realness of her opinions relating to the books he left her. ) and “from memory” kind of makes me think she either put it away for safe keeping or she no longer had it. According to the authors, they spoke with her when writing the book, but were not allowed to quote her nor were they allowed to see the box or it’s contents. Presumably she agreed to chat with them because of Rachel’s involvement so why wouldn’t she allow them to see the box? Like I said, she probably doesn’t have it anymore. I mean, if that’s the case, no one can fault her for moving on. I do wonder though if she’s read the book and if she, like Richard Fry, feels as though she was misrepresented. I did feel like the authors and Rachel kind of laid it on heavy about his heartbreak over losing his girlfriend and that her refusal to marry him (smart girl!) played a huge part in his decision to leave.

As for whether he’s dead or not, I think he’s likely dead, but as I’ve always maintained, I don’t think he jumped from the Severn. It’s too simple. The fact that his body has never been found is the stuff of legends and myths which is something he probably intended. If he had jumped from the Severn, there’s no guarantee that his body wouldn’t have washed ashore. I think he went somewhere else, but has likely since died.

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Well, she did work for The S*n, so I wouldn't expect anything less.
True, but to claim you’re friends with the person and then to betray their trust like that? I mean, the guy had crippling trust issues too, but who cares about that because he’s probably dead? I’m still shocked that his sister allowed any of this to be published regardless of her motives.
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Old 24-04-2019, 18:03
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I must be an idiot but...

Rosie Dunn was a fellow patient and friend. To me she's the only one in the book who speaks of him as a real friend would, you get a true feel for the person from her and not once does she pass comment on friends or family, she says nothing and makes no assumptions about what was behind his illness nor does she reveal anything personal he may have said within group therapy sessions or to her direct and as for being a Sun journalist it seemed to surprise her too that he was open and friendly with her but they clearly clicked and he didn't make snap judgements about a person based on their job or background because in the hospital it doesn't and shouldn't really matter and to him it clearly didn't. I'd be more surprised if he found an affinity with a broadsheet journo......She gives, directly and indirectly, a rare insight into the man and she's refreshing on a stage full of bitchiness and school playground politics and half thought out ideas....
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Old 05-07-2019, 02:34
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Well, the blind item I mentioned the other day on Crazy Days and Nights gossip column has apparently been solved.

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2...vealed-36.html

Who knows if it is true. Would be very very interesting.
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Old 05-07-2019, 12:47
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Well, the blind item I mentioned the other day on Crazy Days and Nights gossip column has apparently been solved.

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2...vealed-36.html

Who knows if it is true. Would be very very interesting.
Haha, good spot but christ the chances that Richey is now a hit ghost writer (including music apparently!) feels a bit slim.

Any guesses for his chain of 'fairly popular' songs over the last decade ? Something off the Greatest Showman maybe ? Aghh what's the name again of that George Ezra song about anorexia and american foreign policy ?

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Old 05-07-2019, 13:11
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Haha, good spot but christ the chances that Richey is now a hit ghost writer (including music apparently!) feels a bit slim.

Any guesses for his chain of 'fairly popular' songs over the last decade ? Something off the Greatest Showman maybe ? Aghh what's the name again of that George Ezra song about anorexia and american foreign policy ?
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Old 05-07-2019, 14:28
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Haha, good spot but christ the chances that Richey is now a hit ghost writer (including music apparently!) feels a bit slim.

Any guesses for his chain of 'fairly popular' songs over the last decade ? Something off the Greatest Showman maybe ? Aghh what's the name again of that George Ezra song about anorexia and american foreign policy ?
It's rather unusual for the Manics to be mentioned in any US gossip sites. This was an odd one. I think the average reader of the site is American and wouldn't know much about the band. Don't know if there were any stories about the band in the Daily Mail lately - where this could have been pulled from.

Some of the stuff on the site is true, some is fiction.

It's a curiosity.
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Old 07-07-2019, 14:56
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It's rather unusual for the Manics to be mentioned in any US gossip sites. This was an odd one. I think the average reader of the site is American and wouldn't know much about the band. Don't know if there were any stories about the band in the Daily Mail lately - where this could have been pulled from.

Some of the stuff on the site is true, some is fiction.

It's a curiosity.
A really popular US based True Crime podcast recently covered Richey's case and (they're by no means the first)

If he's popping up on US podcasts, it could well be some listeners are deciding to fill in the blanks, so to speak. But yeah, that's weird. And bullshit.
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Old 30-07-2019, 23:45
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Decided that I’m keen to see what’s in this book, but I don’t want to buy it new and line the pockets of the knobhead who wrote it.

Anyone got a copy that they’re willing to sell?
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Old 02-10-2019, 22:54
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The Tragic Street Preachers?

Stumbled upon this, not sure if its been shared here yet? 4 part discussion on Richey with his 'former best friend' Richard Fry...it really is something...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eWyLx1oGJU
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