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Old 09-02-2014, 20:58
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Can anyone who has seen the film give us a few fun details, such as interesting or shocking comments from fans/non fans, how the film ends, is there good footage of the SATT period and what is shown? Oh and is that footage from the trailer of James getting food out of his oven in the movie and what is he talking about? Cheers
The two things I remember most are 5 seconds (ish) of Sean singing . Pretty much a background shot but wonderful all the same . And James constantly going around picking up shaking cigarette packets . Sean comes across very well generally . James looks like someone who doesn't really want to be followed around by a camera but is too polite to say so , which from what he's said is probably the case. It was very funny in parts and I really wish it could be released in some form
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Old 13-02-2014, 23:39
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The official answer to the question of whether No Manifesto will appear ever is that yes, it will appear eventually in some form. We are continuing to explore options and work towards making some kind of release for the film a reality. We have invested too many years, too much emotion, and far too much money into it not to release it.

We don't know what form the release will take or when it will occur, but one thing we can tell you is that the film will NOT under ANY circumstances be released without music. Not only is the music is integral to the pacing and flow of the story, but, HELLO, it's a music documentary! Regardless of what the users here believe about the film having no appeal to anyone who isn't already a Manics fan, as professionals in our field and lovers of the art form of documentary filmmaking, we know there is an audience for well-made music films. We realise that it is not a massive mainstream audience, but we feel completely confident that we have made a fun and entertaining film that will not only appeal to Manics fans but will also be worth seeing for people who enjoy music and documentaries in general.

Regarding the question of timeliness, while it's true that most of the filming was conducted during the recording of Send Away The Tigers, the film is about the Manics, their fans and their history as a whole, and is not merely a document of the recording of that album. We tell the story of the Manics from their beginning through to the making of Journal For Plague Lovers and the declaration of Richey Edwards's presumed death. This forms a complete story arc. The Manics, though still active, have a rich history that is largely already written. This is the history told by No Manifesto.

We appreciate your continued interest in the film, and share your frustration over the long delays in its release. All we can say about it right now is that the film will be released literally as soon as a release is possible. Hopefully, that will happen soon, and hopefully when it does happen, all of you will still be interested. Either way, as soon as there is news, you will see it here.

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Old 14-02-2014, 00:47
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Thank you for the update Liz. I for one would be willing to contribute to a Kickstarter campaign or something similar.
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Old 14-02-2014, 09:16
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Thanks for the update. Good luck with it all, fingers crossed for it all.
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Old 14-02-2014, 15:45
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Thank you for the update Liz. I for one would be willing to contribute to a Kickstarter campaign or something similar.
Me too . I saw the film a couple of years ago, it's very interesting and quite funny. My husband who is not a mega fan enjoyed it too . I think anyone who watches it with an open mind could really enjoy it. All the best Liz and Kurt
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Old 14-02-2014, 17:27
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we know there is an audience for well-made music films.
I've probably seen more music documentaries about bands I'm not a fan of than those I am! A good documentary is an artwork in itself, and I loved Dig, The great Hip Hop Hoax, Anvil and others despite not knowing much about the acts. The Manics have an interesting story, and a good doc (as I hope and believe this will be) can achieve that!
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Old 14-02-2014, 17:58
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The official answer to the question of whether No Manifesto will appear ever is that yes, it will appear eventually in some form. ...
Thanks for the info!
*keeps fingers crossed*
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Old 30-05-2014, 13:55
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Is there any chance of an upload of an outtake or unused scene like done a few years ago? Just watched the Further Away video again, love that!
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Old 30-05-2014, 15:43
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Regardless of what the users here believe about the film having no appeal to anyone who isn't already a Manics fan
Should probably read “some users here believe”, considering the majority of this thread is very supportive and there is still, evidently, considerable interest.
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Old 30-05-2014, 15:58
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I've no way of knowing if this will work, but I reckon if we can get "Futurology" to number 1, it might have good momentum for this film to be looked into.
Would it be too much to ask just how much of the fees the film has been saddled with? Given that Kickstarter has been ruled out a couple of pages ago.
Yes it will appear.
Elizabeth, for a further bit of leverage from the company, have you pieced together a possible live album tie-in?
Or are you finished with the project and doing other things now.
Have you made anything with your camcorder since finishing No Manifesto, or would it undo all the fragile negotiations if it was made public?
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Old 02-06-2014, 16:42
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apologies if this has already bee explored, but if financing is the problem for the music couldn't we do a pledge type deal?

for those not in the know I know most will be so again apologies) you 'pledge' money for a project - usually a film or album etc. No money is paid until/unless the target is reached. then, once the project finance is realised, the production begins (I know the footage and production for this has already been started but the idea remains the same) the pledges are all collected.

If sony want x amount to have music in the film lets get the x required from y number of fans

as an example, there are 2870 members on here - some will no longer post or not be interested/have funds to be able to participate but say half are that's 1435 people, at a fiver each that's £7175, say a tenner each that's £14,350, say some put a fiver ad come a tenner then in the middle of both numbers. I know that's really simplistic but with the size ad 'rabidness' of the fanbase I'm sure we could get the funding

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Old 02-06-2014, 16:46
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apologies if this has already bee explored, but if financing is the problem for the music couldn't we do a pledge type deal?

for those not in the know I know most will be so again apologies) you 'pledge' money for a project - usually a film or album etc. No money is paid until/unless the target is reached. then, once the project finance is realised, the production begins (I know the footage and production for this has already been started but the idea remains the same) the pledges are all collected.

If sony want x amount to have music in the film lets get the x required from y number of fans

as an example, there are 2870 members on here - some will no longer post or not be interested/have funds to be able to participate but say half are that's 1435 people, at a fiver each that's £7175, say a tenner each that's £14,350, say some put a fiver ad come a tenner then in the middle of both numbers. I know that's really simplistic but with the size ad 'rabidness' of the fanbase I'm sure we could get the funding
sorry just realised SOS above noted kickstarter/pledges etc has been ruled out
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Old 12-07-2014, 18:00
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With another new album out by the band now would be a great time to get this film out. Maybe release a few exclusive outtakes or deleted scenes to drum up talk and interest? I so need to see this and have been saying this for....damn, 8 years now
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Old 12-07-2014, 18:03
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It's not talk and interest they need from fans, it's funding.
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Old 12-07-2014, 18:36
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As for taking funds online, we have not done that yet because after consulting with crowdfunding professionals, we determined that we simply do not have the resources to mount a crowdfunding campaign that would raise a sufficient amount of money for the release, and obviously, we're not going to take money from anyone until we're certain that we can use it to deliver the final product. We intend to do a crowdfunding campaign when it becomes appropriate. In the mean time, we are continuing to raise money for the film via other channels.

This film will not under any circumstances be released without music.
I'm still a bit baffled by this idea. Surely it's somewhat presumptuous to assert the film will appeal to non-fans if the record label aren't behind a product which is ready for market... but the fact is Manics fans are notorious for getting out and supporting Manics-related products. See the wealth of tat already produced about the band (not implying this is tat, simply there's plenty out there).

The primary advantage of a conventional release over crowd-funding is word of mouth, yes? But word of mouth isn't guaranteed. There's at least a small market ready and waiting here, but even in the community I imagine interest will dwindle as time goes on. If the same market that keeps the band afloat financially can't get enough funding together... does that not speak fairly definitively about the commercial viability of the project?
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