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Old 27-12-2014, 23:07
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Considering how some people often joke about Kevin Carter being overplayed,
I've seen the Manics four times and got it once. You Stole The Sun.. on the other hand; it's so ubiquitous I'm convinced it was being played when they still had a bassist called Flicker.
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Old 27-12-2014, 23:14
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I may have started compiling all relevant information in some form of Excel Spreadsheet.

Considering how some people often joke about Kevin Carter being overplayed, I was quite surprised to find I didn't actually see it live for the first time until the National Treasures show.
I have noted, in various fandoms, that there is often an inverse proportion between the number of times a joke is made about the supposed frequency of a thing happening, and the actual frequency of said thing happening.
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Well I've seen THB live. And now that I think about it, on the other two times I saw the Manics they played Kevin Carter!
I'll be back when I google what venues I went to and what they played for a full list.
And even then I was downstairs smoking outside the building do missed "1985" and YSTSFMH.
Really happy to have heard stuff from Futurology live. WMTTB really should become a greater live audience song than YSTSFMH.
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Motown Junk

GT:

Slash 'n' Burn
Motorcycle Emptiness
You Love Us
Love's Sweet Exile
Little Baby Nothing
Stay Beautiful
Repeat
Theme from M*A*S*H


GATS:

Sleepflower
From Despair To Where
La Tristesse Durera
Life Becoming A Landslide
Roses In the Hospital
Donkeys


THB:

The whole bloody lot.

EMG:

A Design For Life
Kevin Carter
Enola/Alone
Everything Must Go
Australia


TIMT:

The Everlasting
If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next
You Stole The Sun From My Heart
Tsunami


KYE:

Found That Soul
Ocean Spray
So Why So Sad
Let Robeson Sing
The Masses Against The Classes


FD:

There By The Grace Of God

LB:

1985
The Love Of Richard Nixon
Empty Souls


SATT:

Your Love Alone Is Not Enough
Indian Summer
Autumnsong


PFAYM:

It's Not War
Postcards from a Young Man
Some Kind of Nothingness
Hazelton Avenue
Golden Platitudes


NT:

This Is The Day

RTF:

This Sullen Welsh Heart
Show Me The Wonder
Rewind The Film
30 Year War


Futurology:

Futurology
Walk Me To The Bridge
Europa Geht Durch Mich
Dreaming A City (Hugheskova)


I've been into them four years, I think that's pretty good going? What upsets me is because I was so fucking depressed when I saw them in 2011, there's a lot of the gig I can't remember - and it was by far the longest gig as well.
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Is KC said to be over played? The joke is more the presence of or combination of EMG, KC, OS and Autumnsong lol.
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Motown Junk
Slash n Burn
Born To End
Motorcycle Emptiness
You Love Us
Love's Sweet Exile
Little Baby Nothing
Stay Beautiful
Condemned To Rock n Roll (first verse only, not sure if that counts)

GATS:
Sleepflower
From despair To Where
La Tristesse Durera
Life Becoming A Landslide
Roses In The Hospital
MASH
Donkeys

THB:
whole album

EMG:
Elvis Impersonator
A Design For Life
Kevin Carter
Enola/Alone
Everything Must Go
small black flowers
The Girl Who Wanted To Be God
Australia
No Surface All Feeling

TIMT:
The Everlasting
Tolerate
You Stole The Sun From My Heart
Ready For Drowning
Tsunami
My Little Empire
Prologue To History
The Masses Against The Classes

KYE:
Found That Soul
Ocean Spray
So Why So Sad
Let Robeson Sing (with and without Gruff Rhys)

FD/LT:
There By The Grace Of God
Forever Delayed
Judge Yourself

L:
1985
The Love Of Richard Nixon
Empty Souls
I Live To Fall Asleep
Solitude Sometimes Is
Cardiff Afterlife

SATT:
Send Away The Tigers
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough (with and without Nina Person)
Autumn Song
I'm Just A Patsy
Winterlovers
Second Great Depression
Rendition
Indian Summer

JFPL:
Whole album (except Bag Lady)

PFAYM:
It's Not War
Postcards From A Young Man
Golden Platitudes
Hazleton Avenue
A Billion Balconies Facing The Sun
Some Kind Of Nothingness (with and without Ian McMchullock (I know I've spelt that wrong))

NT:
This Is The Day

RTF:
This Sullen Welsh Heart
Show Me The Wonder
Rewind The Film
As Holy As the Soil
Anthem For A Lost Cause
Tokyo Skyline (James played half of it acoustic at Shepherd's Bush Empire)
30 Year War

F:
Futurology
Walk Me To The Bridge
let's Go To War
Europa Ghet Durch Mich
Dreaming A City
Divine Youth (with and without Georgia Ruth)

From that, I really wish I'd gone to see them when KYE came out, but my mum couldn't get me tickets whilst I was at school. Only the singles heard live, and two of those were at the NT O2 gig. Would love to have heard things like Year Of Purification and Miss Europa Disco Dancer live like others have.

Maybe in their next reappraisal of their back catalogue, they'll discover ssomelove for Epicentre or The Convalescent.

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Strip It Down
Motown Junk
Sorrow 16
We Her Majesty's Prisoners
You Love Us (Heavenly)
Spectators Of Suicide (Heavenly)
Starlover

Slash N'Burn
Born To End
Motorcycle Emptiness
You Love Us (Sony)
You Love Us (featuring Andy Cairns)
Love's Sweet Exile
Little Baby Nothing
Little Baby Nothing (full band acoustic)
Little Baby Nothing (JDB solo acoustic)
Stay Beautiful
Stay Beautiful (JDB solo acoustic)
Condemned To Rock And Roll (part as Motown Junk intro)
Theme From MASH
Theme From MASH (JDB solo acoustic)
It's So Easy

SLEEPFLOWER!
From Despair To Where
From Despair To Where (JDB solo acoustic)
La Tristesse Durera
La Tristesse Durera (JDB solo acoustic)
Life Becoming A Landslide
Roses In The Hospital
Donkeys
Donkeys (JDB acoustic)

Yes
Yes (JDB acoustic)
Ifwhitwamerica
Of Walking Abortion
She Is Suffering
She Is Suffering (full band acoustic)
Archives Of Pain
Archives Of Pain (half acoustic)
Revol
4st 7lb
Mausoleum
Faster
Faster (full band acoustic)
This Is Yesterday
This Is Yesterday (JDB solo acoustic)
Die In The Summertime
The Intense Humming Of Evil
PCP

Elvis Impersonator: Blackpool Pier
A Design For Life
A Design For Life (full band acoustic)
Kevin Carter
Kevin Carter (featuring Andy Cato)
Kevin Carter (JDB solo acoustic)
Enola/Alone
Everything Must Go
Everything Must Go (JDB solo acoustic)
Small Black Flowers That Grow In The Sky
The Girl Who Wanted To Be God
Australia
No Surface All Feeling
No Surface All Feeling (JDB solo acoustic)
Can't Take My Eyes Off You (JDB solo acoustic)
Take The Skinheads Bowling

The Everlasting
The Everlasting (JDB solo acoustic)
If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next
You Stole The Sun From My Heart
You Stole The Sun From My Heart (JDB solo acoustic)
Ready For Drowning
Tsunami
My Little Empire
Black Dog On My Shoulder (JDB solo acoustic)

The Masses Against The Classes

Found That Soul
Ocean Spray
Ocean Spray (featuring Andy Cato)
Ocean Spray (full band acoustic)
So Why So Sad
Let Robeson Sing
Let Robeson Sing (featuring Gruff Rhys)
Miss Europa Disco Dancer
Wattsville Blues
Royal Correspondent (JDB solo acoustic)
Baby Elian (JDB solo acoustic)
Freedom Of Speech Won't Feed My Children

There By The Grace Of God
Forever Delayed
Judge Yr'self
Last Christmas (JDB solo acoustic)

1985
The Love Of Richard Nixon
Empty Souls
I Live To Fall Asleep
To Repel Ghosts
Solitude Sometimes Is
Cardiff Afterlife
Everything Will Be

That's No Way To Tell A Lie
An English Gentleman
On Saturday Morning We Will Rule The World
Run Romeo Run
Still A Long Way To Go
Emigre
The Wrong Beginning
Which Way To Kyffin

Send Away The Tigers
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough (featuring Nina Persson)
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough (full band acoustic)
The Second Great Depression
Indian Summer
Rendition
Autumnsong
I'm Just A Patsy
Winterlovers

Umbrella

Peeled Apples
Jackie Collins Existential Question Time
Me And Stephen Hawking
This Joke Sport Severed
Journal For Plague Lovers
She Bathed Herself In A Bath Of Bleach
Facing Page: Top Left
Marlon JD
Doors Closing Slowly
All Is Vanity
Pretension/Repulsion
Virginia State Epileptic Colony
William's Last Words

It's Not War
It's Not War (full band acoustic)
Postcards From A Young Man
Some Kind Of Nothingness (featuring Ian McCulloch)
The Descent
Hazelton Avenue
Golden Platitudes
A Billion Balconies Facing The Sun
The Killing Moon (JDB acoustic featuring Ian McCulloch)

This Is The Day
This Is The Day (full band acoustic)

This Sullen Welsh Heart (JDB solo acoustic)
Show Me The Wonder
Show Me The Wonder (JDB solo acoustic)
Rewind The Film
Rewind The Film (featuring Richard Hawley)
4 Lonely Roads (featuring Cate Le Bon)
I Miss The Tokyo Skyline (part JDB solo acoustic)
As Holy As The Soil
Anthem For A Lost Cause
Running Out Of Fantasy (JDB solo acoustic)
30 Year War

Futurology
Walk Me To The Bridge
Let's Go To War
Europa Geht Durch Mich
Europa Geht Durch Mich (featuring Nina Hoss)
Divine Youth
Divine Youth (featuring Georgia Ruth)
Dreaming A City
Between The Clock And The Bed (JDB acoustic featuring Green Garside)
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Old 28-12-2014, 12:19
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Motown Junk
Slash 'N' Burn
Born To End
You Love Us
Love’s Sweet Exile
Motorcycle Emptiness
Stay Beautiful
Condemned To Rock 'N' Roll [first verse & chorus]
Little Baby Nothing
Theme From M.A.S.H. (Suicide Is Painless)
From Despair To Where
Donkeys
La Tristesse Durera (Scream To A Sigh)
Life Becoming A Landslide
Roses In The Hospital
Sleepflower
Yes
Ifwhiteamericatoldthetruthforonedayit'sworldwouldf allapart
Of Walking Abortion
She Is Suffering
Archives Of Pain
Revol
4st 7lbs
Mausoleum
Faster
This Is Yesterday
Die In The Summertime
The Intense Humming of Evil
P.C.P.
Judge Y'rself
Last Christmas
Elvis Impersonator: Blackpool Pier
A Design For Life
Enola/Alone
Kevin Carter
Everything Must Go
Small Black Flowers That Grow In The Sky
Removables
Interiors (song for Willem de Kooning)
The Girl Who Wanted To Be God
Australia
No Surface All Feeling
Can't Take My Eyes Off You
Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head
The Everlasting
If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next
You Stole the Sun from My Heart
Ready for Drowning
Tsunami
My Little Empire
You're Tender and You're Tired
Black Dog on My Shoulder
Nobody Loved You
Prologue To History
The Masses Against the Classes
Rock And Roll Music
Found That Soul
Ocean Spray
So Why So Sad
Let Robeson Sing
The Year of Purification
Wattsville Blues
Miss Europa Disco Dancer
Royal Correspondent
Baby Elián
Freedom of Speech Won't Feed My Children
There By The Grace Of God
4 Ever Delayed
1985
The Love of Richard Nixon
Empty Souls
I Live to Fall Asleep
Solitude Sometimes Is
Cardiff Afterlife
Firefight
It's So Easy
Take The Skinheads Bowling
Everything Will Be
Send Away the Tigers
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough
Indian Summer
The Second Great Depression
Rendition
Autumnsong
Winterlovers
Umbrella
Pennyroyal Tea
Peeled Apples
Jackie Collins Existential Question Time
Me and Stephen Hawking
This Joke Sport Severed
Journal for Plague Lovers
She Bathed Herself in a Bath of Bleach
Facing Page: Top Left
Marlon J.D.
Doors Closing Slowly
All Is Vanity
Pretension/Repulsion
Virginia State Epileptic Colony
William's Last Words
Emigré
That’s No Way To Tell A Lie
An English Gentleman
On Saturday Morning We Will Rule The World
Run Romeo Run
The Wrong Beginning
Clampdown
Lost In The Supermarket
Still A Long Way To Go
Which Way To Kyffin
(It’s Not War) Just The End Of Love
Postcards From A Young Man
Some Kind Of Nothingness
Hazelton Avenue
Golden Platitudes
The Future Has Been Here 4ever
A Billion Balconies Facing The Sun
This Is The Day
This Sullen Welsh Heart
Show Me The Wonder
Rewind The Film
(I Miss The) Tokyo Skyline
Anthem For A Lost Cause
As Holy As The Soil (That Buries Your Skin)
Running Out Of Fantasy
30-Year War
Futurology
Europa Geht Durch Mich
Let’s Go To War
Walk Me To The Bridge
Dreaming A City (Hugheskova)
Between The Clock And The Bed
Divine Youth

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Hmm, I just posted a reply but it doesn't appear to have worked. Naughty Internet.

There are some important questions with regards to geeky statistics and lists. For a thread asking what Manics songs I've heard live, I wouldn't list one song as two separate songs merely because one was acoustic or full band, as it's still the same song. If I were asked how many times I've heard these songs live, I may include 'x times full band, y times acoustic', but they still wouldn't be listed as separate tracks. Also not including intro teases done by James when joking with the audience. Hell, I'd be able to claim Symphony of Tourette if that was a rule! So, to the best of my memory, a list of the individual Manics songs and full covers.

Manics:

Strip It Down
Motown Junk
Sorrow 16
We Her Majesty's Prisoners
You Love Us
Spectators of Suicide
Starlover

Slash 'n' Burn
Born to End
Motorcycle Emptiness
Love's Sweet Exile
Little Baby Nothing
Stay Beautiful
Condemned to Rock 'n' Roll (partial)
Theme from M*A*S*H (Suicide Is Painless)
It's So Easy

Sleepflower
From Despair to Where
La Tristesse Durera (Scream to a Sigh)
Life Becoming a Landslide
Roses in the Hospital
Donkeys

Yes
Ifwhiteamericatoldthetruthforonedayit'sworldwouldf allapart
Of Walking Abortion
She Is Suffering
Archives of Pain
Revol
4st 7lb
Mausoleum
Faster
This Is Yesterday
Die in the Summertime
The Intense Humming of Evil
P.C.P.
Pennyroyal Tea
Last Christmas

Elvis Impersonator: Blackpool Pier
A Design for Life
Kevin Carter
Enola/Alone
Everything Must Go
Small Black Flowers That Grow in the Sky
The Girl Who Wanted to Be God
Australia
No Surface All Feeling
Can't Take My Eyes Off You
Take the Skinheads Bowling

The Everlasting
If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next
You Stole the Sun from My Heart
Ready for Drowning
Tsunami
My Little Empire
Black Dog on My Shoulder
Prologue to History

The Masses Against the Classes

Found That Soul
Ocean Spray
So Why So Sad
Let Robeson Sing
Wattsville Blues
Miss Europa Disco Dancer
Royal Correspondent
Baby Elian
Freedom of Speech Won't Feed My Children

There By the Grace of God
4 Ever Delayed
Judge Yr'self

1985
The Love of Richard Nixon
Empty Souls
I Live to Fall Asleep
To Repel Ghosts
Solitude Sometimes Is
Cardiff Afterlife

Send Away the Tigers
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough
Indian Summer
The Second Great Depression
Rendition
Autumnsong
I'm Just a Patsy
Winterlovers

Peeled Apples
Jackie Collins Existential Question Time
Me and Stephen Hawking
This Joke Sport Severed
Journal for Plague Lovers
She Bathed Herself in a Bath Of Bleach
Facing Page: Top Left
Marlon J.D.
Doors Closing Slowly
All Is Vanity
Pretension/Repulsion
Virginia State Epileptic Colony
William's Last Words

(It's Not War) Just the End of Love
Postcards from a Young Man
Some Kind of Nothingness
The Descent (Pages 1 & 2)
Hazelton Avenue
Golden Platitudes
A Billion Balconies Facing the Sun
The Killing Moon

This Is the Day

This Sullen Welsh Heart
Show Me the Wonder
Rewind the Film
4 Lonely Roads
(I Miss the) Tokyo Skyline (partial)
Anthem For A Lost Cause
As Holy As the Soil (That Buries Your Skin)
Running Out of Fantasy
30 Year War

Futurology
Walk Me to the Bridge
Let's Go to War
Europa Geht Durch Mich
Divine Youth
Dreaming a City (Hughesovka)
Between the Clock and the Bed

James:

That's No Way to Tell a Lie
An English Gentleman
Bad Boys and Painkillers
On Saturday Morning We Will Rule the World
Run Romeo Run
Still a Long Way to Go
Émigré
Say Hello to the Pope
The Wrong Beginning
Which Way to Kyffin
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Well now this is a challenge!

11 shows, three ever presents (ADFL, IYTTTYCWBN and 'Motown Junk').

Now if we could just have an EMG in full show in 2016, that would be lovely.

‘1985’ (x 3)
‘4st 7lb’
‘Archives Of Pain’ (x 3)
‘Australia (x 3)
‘Autumnsong’ (x 5)
‘Baby Elian’
‘Born To End’
‘Cardiff Afterlife’
‘A Design For Life’ (x 11)
‘Die In The Summertime’ (x 4)
‘Divine Youth’
‘Donkeys’
‘Dreaming A City (Hughesovka)’
‘Empty Souls’
‘Enola/Alone’ (x 2)
‘Europa Geht Durch Mich’
‘The Everlasting’
‘Everything Must Go’ (x 5)
‘Faster’ (x 7)
‘Found That Soul’
‘Freedom Of Speech Won't Feed My Children’
‘From Despair To Where’ (x 4)
‘Futurology’
‘Golden Platitudes’
‘Hazelton Avenue’
‘Ifwhiteamericantoldthetruthforonedayitsworldwould fallapart’
‘If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next’ (x 11)
‘I Live To Fall Asleep’
‘I’m Just A Patsy’ (x 2)
‘Imperial Bodybags’
‘Indian Summer’
‘The Intense Humming Of Evil’
‘(It’s Not War) Just The End Of Love’ (x 2)
‘It’s So Easy’
‘Judge Yr’self’
‘Kevin Carter’ (x 4)
‘La Tristesse Durera’ (x 8)
‘Let Robeson Sing’ (x 2)
‘Little Baby Nothing’ (x 5)
‘The Love Of Richard Nixon’
‘The Masses Against The Classes’ (x 7)
‘Mausoleum’
‘Miss Europa Disco Dancer’
‘Motorcycle Emptiness’ (x 11)
‘Motown Junk’ (x 8)
‘No Surface All Feeling’ (x 2)
‘Ocean Spray’ (x 6)
‘Of Walking Abortion’ (x 2)
‘PCP’
‘Pennyroyal Tea’
‘Postcards From A Young Man’
‘Prologue To History’
‘Revol’
‘Rewind The Film’
‘Roses In The Hospital’ (x 2)
‘Send Away The Tigers’ (x 3)
‘She Is Suffering’
‘Show Me The Wonder’
‘Slash ’N’ Burn’
‘Sleepflower’ (x 2)
‘Small Black Flowers That Grow In The Sky’ (x 3)
‘Solitude Sometimes Is’
‘Some Kind Of Nothingness’
‘So Why So Sad’
‘Stay Beautiful’ (x 3)
‘Suicide Is Painless’ (x 3)
‘Take The Skinheads Bowling’
’30 Year War’
‘This Is Yesterday’ (x 6)
‘This Sullen Welsh Heart’
‘Tsunami’ (x 5)
‘Walk Me To The Bridge’
‘Winterlovers’
‘Yes’ (x 5)
‘You Love Us’ (x 10)
‘Your Love Alone Is Not Enough’ (x 6)
‘You Stole The Sun From My Heart’ (x 10)

Fragments:
‘Condemned To Rock And Roll’
‘Into The Valley’
‘Suicide Alley’
‘She Sell Sanctuary’
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Insert setlist from the October 2009 Detroit, Michigan show, since it was the only time I've ever seen them live (until this June!). But to make it interesting, I broke it up by album:

Pre-Albums:
Motown Junk (with All or Nothing intro)

GT:
Motorcycle Emptiness
Little Baby Nothing
You Love Us

GATS:
La Tristesse Durera (Scream to a Sigh)
From Despair to Where

THB:
Faster
This Is Yesterday (James only acoustic)

EMG:
No Surface All Feeling
Enola/Alone
A Design for Life

TIMTTMY:
You Stole the Sun From My Heart
If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next
The Everlasting (James only acoustic)

KYE:
Let Robeson Sing

JFPL:
Peeled Apples
Jackie Collins Existential Question Time
Marlon J.D.
Me and Stephen Hawking

SATT:
Your Love Alone Is Not Enough
Send Away the Tigers

Interesting seeing the breakdown of where they took their songs from for that show.
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In order of when I heard them - admittedly the first time I saw them live the set list is unknown so I've assumed it was the same as others played at that point.

Ninety nine down, looking forward to the hundredth. Running out of Fantasy seems to be the only song I've heard in it's only outing!

Setlist.fm is great for anyone wishing to compile their own list.

Everything Must Go (12)
From Despair to Where (9)
Australia (7)
Enola/Alone (5)
La Tristesse Durera (Scream to a Sigh) (10)
Kevin Carter (7)
Raindrops Keep Fallin' on my Head (1)
Motorcycle Emptiness (17)
No Surface All Feeling (6)
You Love Us (17)
A Design for Life (17)
If You Tolerate This Your Children Will be Next (16)
Faster (12)
The Everlasting (7)
Tsunami (7)
Motown Junk (15)
S.Y.M.M. (1)
This is Yesterday (7)
Elvis Impersonator: Blackpool Pier (3)
Yes (4)
Nobody Loved You (1)
You Stole the Sun From My Heart (15)
The Masses Against the Classes (7)
There by the Grace of God (2)
Slash 'n' Burn (3)
Suicide is Painless (4)
Stay Beautiful (7)
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