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Maddock
11-07-2003, 20:35
New bill will make teenage kisses illegal

John Carvel, social affairs editor
Friday July 11, 2003
The Guardian

A bill due before parliament next week will make it a criminal offence for two 15-year-olds to kiss in public, the Home Office said last night.

But officials said those below the age of consent were unlikely to be prosecuted if both were enjoying the embrace.

The revelation came after the Family Planning Association warned that the sexual offences bill, due for second reading in the Commons on Tuesday, threatened the young people it was supposed to protect.

Anne Weyman, the association's chief executive, said the bill would criminalise all consenting sexual activity among those under 16.

"This behaviour could include common petting activities such as kissing and touching, through to full sexual intercourse," she said.

"This kind of sexual exploration is completely normal and an important part of adolescent development. If the bill is passed without any amendments, such activity could carry a prison sentence of up to five years."

She said criminalising sexual activity would mean young people would be left without support, putting them at risk of unplanned pregnancies or sexually transmitted infections.

"The criminal law has a very poor record for influencing consenting sexual behaviour," she said. "The bill devalues true abuse from desired sexual activity by failing to distinguish the two."

The Home Office accepted Ms Weyman's interpretation of the bill, but said there was no plan to change it.

Meanwhile the latest attempt to revive the symbolic controversy over "section 28" restrictions on gay sex education failed in the House of Lords last night when the Tory peeress Lady Blatch failed to carry what her critics called a wrecking amendment to the local government bill.

Peers voted by 180 to 130 to reject an attempt by Lady Blatch to prevent repeal of the hated section until every school giving sex education had balloted parents.

"Mine is a simple mission to protect children from the worst form of sex education," Lady Blatch told peers after inheriting the pro-section 28 campaign from Lady Young who died last year.

Ben Summerskill, chief executive of Stonewall, the mainstream gay lobby, said: "This vote was a triumph for 21st century tolerance over 19th century prejudice. A noisy minority of politicians has defended this indefensible totem for far too long.

"We regret that organisations such as the Christian Institute found it necessary to resort to distortion and scaremongering in their attempts to frustrate this long overdue change in the law."

If that gets passed.. this nation is officially crazy :confused:

*didz and jam*
11-07-2003, 20:42
Hahahahahaha!!

That can't be serious!!

Maddock
11-07-2003, 21:01
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Distribution/Redirect_Artifact/0,4678,2-995844,00.html

well.. the guardian is pretty trustworthy

doubt that would get passed though



in other stupid news today...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,995926,00.html

"Sex lessons for five-year-olds 'should be compulsory' "

Furbag
11-07-2003, 21:27
Grrrr at the silly billy trying to ban kissing

billy
11-07-2003, 22:29
Grrrr at the silly billy trying to ban kissing

hey, i'm all for it!

Perdita
11-07-2003, 22:54
That is officially the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Fucking hell. This is so bloody.... what?

Can't get my head round how stupid this is. Is this a joke or something?




But...

I'm 23! So nyer nyer!

billy
11-07-2003, 22:55
oops, forgot to actually comment.

its rediculous. what exactly are they trying to prevent? by not kissing in public, they will go to private places, where things can go a bit further than kissing... ah hell im 17 anyway.

Void
11-07-2003, 22:58
Must be some sorft of joke :eek:

nephthys
12-07-2003, 00:42
*kisses thread and any under 15's in it*

Niko
12-07-2003, 03:37
Originally posted by billy
oops, forgot to actually comment.

its rediculous. what exactly are they trying to prevent? by not kissing in public, they will go to private places, where things can go a bit further than kissing... ah hell im 17 anyway.

Its just saying that if a 15 year old got arrested for kissing in public, a court might be able to be convinced that its illegal because of the law.

Pimpf
12-07-2003, 09:31
See, I told you where banning smoking in public would lead. ;)

Perdita
12-07-2003, 15:11
You know what all the under-16s should do? You should all have a kiss-in outside no.10 or the commons or wherever on the day they do this, wouldn't it be cool? Excuse to snog lots of people too! It worked for ACT-UP, didn't it?

Takk
12-07-2003, 16:48
It's crazee [/manuel]

I guess the idea of the bill is a good one, but the notion of banning kissing is ludicrous - anyway i think it would probably have difficulties being enforced anyway, the police wouldn't waste their time with it.

alexliamw
13-07-2003, 14:40
I've heard about this, and it is indeed ridiculous, though it wouldn't be enforced in normal circumstances. What it might become, though, is another offence people are charged with if the police can't get them for something bigger but they think they are in fact guilty of that something. And we don't need more of those offences.

Terminal Young Thing
13-07-2003, 17:29
Originally posted by Methadone Pretty
It's crazee [/manuel]

Naw, "Iz crazee" is a better transcript.

Oh, and that law is just daft, plain and simple.

Sven945
13-07-2003, 18:29
Originally posted by Maddock
[url]"Sex lessons for five-year-olds 'should be compulsory' "

isnt that the synopsis for that south park episode? :P

jack

LeopardskinKitty
14-07-2003, 13:26
Fucking hell...this country's turning into '1984', isn't it?

Question Everything
15-07-2003, 12:17
That's what I though when my friend (who was doing Work Experience at the office of an MP) told me about a memo regarding this. It's ludicrous.

nicky wire
16-07-2003, 23:03
Anyone remember the anti sex league?

Irishpunktom
19-07-2003, 16:24
hahahahahaha


I thought all those crazy laws on page 8 of the paper were laws that were hundreds of years old and never repealed..

you know..

In Florida it's illegal to stand on your head on the first sunday of the month
And all that..

you Crazy Brits are still making em..

hahaha

idontwanttobeaman
25-07-2003, 00:06
this law has got more chance of being passed than fishing to be banned - total rubbish. how can u control this - stupid idea.

allrocknrollishomosexual
11-08-2003, 01:30
i thought kissing in public was illegal anyway; one of those laws no one cares about. guess i was wrong. me and my ex were once told "that's illegal in public places" when we snogged at the local bowling alley. this was in norway, though.

Kiwifruit
11-08-2003, 03:16
That si so weird :confused: :eek: .

razorblade*kisses
14-08-2003, 20:04
hahahahaha!!! this county just gets funnier and funnier.

but t'is fucking stupid!

hell, i may not have a girlfriend so right now it don't really affect him, but still.....hahahahahaha!!!!


all us 15 and unders should go up and give ol' tony a big kiss on the lips :p

jesse
14-12-2003, 11:29
What a crock of shit, kissing in public, I should be so lucky, I don't even get to kiss in private, let alone public. Whoever proposed this bill probably isn't getting any either. Either that or they had a bad experience in public recently. Maybe their false teeth fell out while snogging.:eek:

Anna
14-12-2003, 13:19
I think they should ban everyone over the age of 40 from kissing in public instead. Ewwwwwww. :D

LeopardskinKitty
14-12-2003, 13:22
haha..true! it's icky :p

honestly though,it is totally stoopid.I might not have a boyfriend,but still!
I do,however,think couples should be banned from gigs. *spews*

jesse
14-12-2003, 13:25
They should just ban people over 40, and ban people from gigs too.

ailsa
14-12-2003, 14:17
it proper confuses me when people bump old topics up...

unwashed and somewhat slightly dazed
14-12-2003, 17:07
Especially since the poster was banned!

Joe
14-12-2003, 21:31
Originally posted by ailsa
it proper confuses me when people bump old topics up...

:eek: I've only just noticed that. Loads of old threads have been bumped up lately. LET THEM LIE PEOPLE!

Joe
14-12-2003, 21:32
Actually, I've just realised that my contribution above has just bumped the thread to the top again.

And again...

Narcolept
15-12-2003, 01:20
and mine