i quit

[littlebabynothing79]

i've had it with pretentious individuals on here..who think its great to insult people
bye

[nic]

whats wrong with saying what you feel,we cant like everything.

[eric]

You don't need to leave just because of this (unless it is affecting your health). To be honest, you'll be doing what whoever is responsible wants, and that's the last thing you should do.

Just take a break and then come back if you like.

[knives out]

Eh, what the hell? :confused:

[Terminal Young Thing]

Originally posted by knives out
Eh, what the hell? :confused:

ditoeto

[nic]

was it something personal,someone said.
your not liz hurley are you,i didnt mean to cause offence in my earlier thread

[Sven945]

i shall assume that this is to do with the post about you selling the glasto 99 bootleg for £8. i will reply to it here because you are more likely to keep your eye on this thread than the other one.

Originally posted by littlebabynothing79
look jack..i dont know what your problem is .. but everytime i write something you write back with a fucking awful response.

firstly, when i write a responce to what someone has said i do not take any notice of whoever has said it. any other "awful" comments i have made were not directed at you because you are who you are, i am just saying what i think.


Originally posted by littlebabynothing79
no i am not profiteering from a bootleg

you are selling a bootleg for £8, i cant think of any other word for that other than profiteering.


Originally posted by littlebabynothing79
i am selling my records to get by..to live for fucksake..

there, you are admitting you are selling it for profit.


Originally posted by littlebabynothing79
and it was the original...

i think many people aggree with me that selling bootlegs of any kind is wrong (apart from possibly the person who originally recored it, as they have to buy expensive equipment etc).

Originally posted by littlebabynothing79
anyhow..please leave me alone..i have enough problems without you...

as i have said, i just say what i think, whoever they are.

jack

[music-is-redundant]

It would make me sad to see you leave. I believe Jack didn't mean anything personal with his comments and that he has nothing against you (why should he?).

As for the selling of bootlegs no one usually cares as long as it is a personal master recording which I believe it was in this case.

[MissHanna]

meh. jacks a little arsehole. we all know that :mrgreen:


(i still love you though jack ;) )

[Sven945]

Originally posted by MissHanna
jacks... little... we all know that :mrgreen:

thats a lie and you know it! :P

jack

[MissHanna]

:O fake quoting!

*lays down the law*

you may be tall, but you're little in other places :P

ive seen it *nods*

[Sven945]

Originally posted by MissHanna
:O fake quoting!

*lays down the law*

you may be tall, but you're little in other places :P

ive seen it *nods*

thats also a lie and you know it ;)

jack

[MissHanna]

bollocks jack.


i never lie :p

[Amanda Graceywire]

Ah, but that could in turn be a lie and thus the complex thingamyjig of the jiggeroo goes on forever... (gotta love that scientific talk)

LBN79 (sorry I don't know your real name! :o guess that's the point of nicknames though!), don't take it personally. Different people have different views is all. If Jack had called you a sandwich toaster, then that is something to worry about. Mainly because it doesn't make sense. :) I know you have a hell of a lot to deal with right now, and I hope you can focus on righting that first. Then come back and talk to us bunch of nutters again. :)

Er...

[Void]

HHHHHit the road Jack
And don't you come back no more no more no more no moreee.

*slips back into the shadows*

[littlebabynothing79]

First of all thank you for the people that have been supportive and have helped me through the past several months. As for Jack and co. I have NOTHING to say to you.

I have decided to take some time out from this forum.

Yes I was selling my genuine copy of Glasto 99 and I have had various other insults directed in my direction. We're all individuals and we all have difficulties. Some of them can be immediately solved and some of them take more time.

I have a lot of emotional rubbish on my shoulders and financial rubbish too. I have had to sell my entire dvd collection. Probably sooner or later my record collection and all my other belongings.

Ok so maybe my wording could have been better and I should have asked for nearest offers. It did cost me a lot in the first place.

I dont need further emotional shit from pretentious idiots who are up their own asses. At the moment I am finding it hard enough to live. As I've said before (no this isnt the sympathy vote) my friend died 2yrs ago and I didnt know about it til a fortnight ago or so. My mum treats me like shit and has anorexia,manic depression and osteophorosis. My dad is violent. My brother doesnt live with us anymore and has a new family of his own..he got this girl pregnant at 17. I've been getting counselling at uni and trying my best to graduate and find somewhere else to live. I have debts up to my eye balls and Im not your typical student..i dont drink alcohol..i dont go out every night and my parents dont give me a penny. Things have been pretty severe..and the Dr is trying to sort me out with some additional financial help relating to an allowance.

You can call me all the names under the sun..I know some of you will have no idea and I wouldnt want my worst enemy to go through any of this shit. And yes I do apply for work..agency work etc etc etc. Applied for at least 25 jobs since finishing uni in June and many other p/t jobs beforehand.

So what I'm trying to say is...
Thank you to SBS, Michelle, 4 Real and a few others that have pm (ed) me.
You cant change me..I will always be me..I only lose it when people get 'personal' with the way I am.
I believe I am a genuine person and I wont profiteer out of my love for msp. For heavensake I have been burning cds and copying tapes for FREE (yes FREE Jack) for as long as I can remember. I have friends all over the world who love the Manics. I want to share my love of the manics and the cultural side they have the films the books. I have also helped new fans by recording all their albums and introducing them to the music we love. I've been a fan since 1994!

I know I have no reason to justify myself to anyone. I will keep my posts minimal for the time being. But if anyone is ever in a similar situation and needs to talk feel free to PM me and although I have problems of my own I am always willing to help others out.

Take care
Zoe


PS Jack I think you need to look up the term profiteering in the dictionary. I need the money for food for heavensake. Some of us dont have our parents running after us. Some of us cant afford the latest gizmos and have a 'comfortable' life.

[Sven945]

i was just looking through the posts and you are still posting...

jack

[Terminal Young Thing]

You just don't know when to let things go, do you?

[Maddock]

Originally posted by Sven945
i was just looking through the posts and you are still posting...

jack

Well, to be fair she didn't say how long "some time out" was. (less than a day btw)

PS Jack I think you need to look up the term profiteering in the dictionary. I need the money for food for heavensake. Some of us dont have our parents running after us. Some of us cant afford the latest gizmos and have a 'comfortable' life.

prof·it·eer
n.
One who makes excessive profits on goods in short supply.


*reaches for checklist*....
;)

[patrick_starfish]

http://www.baddteddy.com/stories/1/endworld/Police.jpg

[Jason]

Hi all hope your well

Just saw the post and i hope you are not leaving you was very supportive to me today (13-jul-2003) and i am entirely grateful for those who are wondering what an earth im on about heres what i am talking about

I recieved this today from Littlebabynothing79 on my topic about mood swings and the troubles im facing just take at look at how supportive kind friendly she was about this to me

Hi Jason...
I just think sometimes we blame ourselves for things that are totally out of our hands. I think life is like a constant learning curve. I think the hardest thing in recent years for me esp and some of my friends is the ability to find 'yourself' and understand why you have these emotions and mood swings. Why do I one day wake up fine and the next? You know? Its not in your hands at all. Some people blame it on diet. I think thats true to an extent..but if you're not happy with yourself and the people closest to you..it does make things 10x worse. You have no one to confide in. You start cutting cos you feel you're not wanted and that you're a bad person. Its not all stictly true though It just takes a lot of getting used to. I know I'm always waiting for something bad to happen..cos thats the way things have been.

I dont think you're the only one who fears love and friendship. I have been a couple of rships which have only lasted a couple of weeks, primarily because I dont feel comfortable with that person. Then I end up breaking their heart and in turn that makes me feel bad. I think I've learnt from that mistake anyhow. My bf and I have almost been together for 3yrs.

You cant force emotions to happen. If you're angry you have every right to vent your views. If you want to cry (I know men dont like crying) but it does help alone or not. Sometimes the most reassuring feeling is to know that there is someone else out there who likes the same things as you and has a personality that compliments yours...

But I think about 99% of the population have fears...fears relating to emotions...loneliness especially..

{{hugs}}
zoe

Thank you Zoe for the advice and the help it really meant alot and take no notice of ppl like that on here they are not worth bothering about your better then them.

take care all
Jason



How vain it is to sit down to write when you have not stood up to live

Henry David Thoreau

[Sleepflower]

Zoe, I haven't known you for that long, but I do know you're a really nice person. Especially from that letter you sent me the other day.

Jack obviously doesn't know what profiteering is, so just try and let it go if you can. There are a lot of people who care about you on this board and I can see that from the people who are trying to get you to stay in ths thread.

Anyway I suppose what I'm trying to say is though I don't know the ins and outs all you need to do is PM me if you want to talk, and all try to help you if I can

Love
Sarah

[littlebabynothing79]

Thank you :) :o *hugs*

[ternant]

selling bootlegs is copyright theft in case you haven't realised...and is a serious criminal offence...may you all rot in hell for encouraging it

[Takk]

Not much difference to having bootlegs though...

[Mr. Paranoia]

There's a major difference in my opinion, Tim. Despite the legal shit, I see no moral problem whatsoever with the posession of any kind of bootlegs.

Ternant- never done it myself, but I think it's fine to sell silver cd bootlegs as long as you bought them yourself, cos honestly there isn't much difference between selling them and selling anything else that you own. As for my opinion about selling cd-r bootlegs- you may check the rules page of my site (See sig).

[Takk]

Oh i agree with you Itay about selling bootlegs in terms of it's not on in a moral sense. I was just meaning about the legal stuff. :)

[littlebabynothing79]

Some artists will often admit to having bootlegs of concerts of their own or concerts from other bands.

I see it as being good and bad. At the time I was having serious cashflow problems i.e. I needed money for food. Whoever resurrected this thread must have been very bored.

As I have stated before..I have done lots of other bootleg related stuff for free..and I have done exchanges with people before.

End of story basically

[Pimpf]

You should do whatever the fuck you like and not give a shit anyway :)

[knives out]

Who invented the 'bootleg rules'? I am curious, since if bootlegging is illegal does it matter what the fuck you do? Hmm, whatever, i know nothing.

[Takk]

I would have thought it was like a matter of decency really that determines it, not any legalities.

[knives out]

Yeah, i was thinking that. Duh :)

[kill for kicks]

Lots of posts on here relate to being poor/hard up and the sale of bootlegs - well bugger me if I don't feel ANY sympathy for the Manics. They're all millionaires in their own rights, and pardon me if I don't get upset cos people trade in bootlegs, being rich doesn't protect you from being ripped off, and no my heart doesn't bleed for them, anymore than it did for Metallica when they got their Corportate Rock knickers in a twist over Napster!! For Chrissake, get over it. The trading in MP3s over the internet is NEVER gonna stop, record companies/bands have to get over it ASAP, or die trying to stop it. Work with it, or become obselete. Its the wave of the future my friends.

[Mr. Paranoia]

I'm sure I'm not speaking only for myself when I say that the reason I object bootleg selling isn't the manics being skint or something. I don't feel any financial-based pity for anyone who'd reached the £1M barrier...

BUT I do hate the idea of people making fortune out of products that aren't their own work. There's one well known uk-based manics bootleg seller/trader I've spoken to, who made more than a couple of thousands of pounds during 2002 just by selling cd-r bootlegs. This is, quite simply, a vile and shameless thievery.

If someone doesn't have anything to trade with me, I agree to put some gigs on cd-r's they send me (I remember giving a hand to Zoe once as well).

[littlebabynothing79]

Yeah you did Itay and I still have that bootleg thank you very much.

I just dont understand why people are resurrecting something that happened ages ago. No one was willing to help me financially. I had no food..this is no other reason than that.

How many times do I need to be put on this guilt trip..and publically made out to be some profiteering idiot? If I felt that way inclined I would have put it on ebay or even set up my own website flogging bootlegs. To which I havent done.

I see the good and bad of this forum and at the moment all I can see is bad..and lack of compassion.

I wouldnt deliberately go out of my way to undermine the manics..maybe you should look at or victimise people that generally have gone out of their way to profiteering 100% from bootleg trading.

Its a choice really..you partake in it or you don't :o Just cos you have a bootleg doesnt mean your a bad person....:rolleyes: