Blue eyes = genetic mutation, neo-nazi groups panic.

[StrawberryWine]

People with blue eyes have a single, common ancestor, according to new research.

A team of scientists has tracked down a genetic mutation that leads to blue eyes. The mutation occurred between 6,000 and 10,000 years ago, so before then, there were no blue eyes.

"Originally, we all had brown eyes," said Hans Eiberg from the Department of Cellular and Molecular Medicine at the University of Copenhagen.

Full article. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22934464/wid/11915773?GT1=10914)

A certain fascist dictator is spinning in his grave right now. I wonder how all the white power groups will respond to this? They'll probably say it's propaganda created by ZOG. The Caring Insect, where are you when we need your crazy theories and explanations?

Of course, this really isn't news. All traits are genetic mutations, but I like the idea of the so called "Master Race" being, y'know, an after-the-fact mistake.

[whiterevolver]

oh fantastic. this means i was commiting acts of incest with the girl i met on friday night then.

[StrawberryWine]

oh fantastic. this means i was commiting acts of incest with the girl i met on friday night then.

you fucking disgust me.

[user3837]

hmm, ive got the ginger hair and blue eyes, :eh:

[azima]

the only part of the title i read was "blue eyes = genetic mutation" and i started to wonder what my x-men style ability would be. another dream shattered.

i would also like to hear tci's thoughts though. perhaps the lizard jew overlords injected us with some kind of marker, which made our eyes blue.

xxx

[rayzor]

the only part of the title i read was "blue eyes = genetic mutation" and i started to wonder what my x-men style ability would be. another dream shattered.

i would also like to hear tci's thoughts though. perhaps the lizard jew overlords injected us with some kind of marker, which made our eyes blue.

xxx

:lol: :heart:

I always knew my sister was a freak of nature :P
Whoop! ;)

[Simon]

I'm happy with being a mutant.

[tzb]

oh fantastic. this means i was commiting acts of incest with the girl i met on friday night then.

If this was in Dunstable or even Bedfordshire, this shouldn't surprise you

[whiterevolver]

If this was in Dunstable or even Bedfordshire, this shouldn't surprise you

it was in luton.. in the edge no less. perilously close ;)

[Karen Anna]

i can't figure out my eye colour. this makes me retarded.

[billy]

i can't figure out my eye colour. this makes me retarded.

http://www.marilynmansonimages.com/images/eras/ga/promo/manson002eyes.jpg
You do have weird eyes.

[knives out]

Haha, I always knew I was superior.

[MissHanna]

i don't understand...

is having blue eyes good or bad? am i a result of inbreeding because both my parents have blue eyes? i don't want a child with six toes and four faces :( (I don't want a child at all actually!)

does the reason i prefer young men with brown eyes indicate a need to remove blue eyed people from the population?

i'm confused and a little scared...hold me?

[Karen Anna]

i don't understand...

is having blue eyes good or bad? am i a result of inbreeding because both my parents have blue eyes? i don't want a child with six toes and four faces :( (I don't want a child at all actually!)

does the reason i prefer young men with brown eyes indicate a need to remove blue eyed people from the population?

i'm confused and a little scared...hold me?

http://www.philgomes.com/blog/uploaded_images/5ass-742967.jpg
a monkey with four asses.

[mank]

i've got greyish-blue eyes, what does this mean

[MissHanna]

http://www.philgomes.com/blog/uploaded_images/5ass-742967.jpg
a monkey with four asses.


how did you get hold of that picture? nobody had a camera ready and waiting when my little brother was born.

[MissHanna]

i've got greyish-blue eyes, what does this mean

it means you're DOOMED!

(mine are a greyish blue, with a gold star around the pupil and a few fleck of light blue in them - basically, they are blue to cut a long story short.) yes, i have blue eyes! and naturally blonde hair (obv not as blonde as it is now as that is all bleach n stuff, but as a little hanna i could have advertised for kinder chocolate)

lets all look at the hitler youth child and LAUGH!

[mank]

i'm in the same boat as you. blueish eyes, blondeish hair.

we're hitler youth gone wrong :(

[MissHanna]

i'm in the same boat as you. blueish eyes, blondeish hair.

we're hitler youth gone wrong :(

if only we had been born in the late 20s, early 30s! we would have been accepted by someone :(

[mank]

it's often been said i was born in the wrong decade.

only now do i truly understand what they mean.

[MissHanna]

it's often been said i was born in the wrong decade.

only now do i truly understand what they mean.


the italians were still clinging onto the past when i encountered a large group of them in ibiza in 1989 as i was toddling onto a glass bottom boat with my family. lots of hands started grabbing at my golden curls, with voices shouting 'BELLA, BELLA'.

needless to say, i cried.

[Finn]

i'm in the same boat as you. blueish eyes, blondeish hair.

we're hitler youth gone wrong :( Yep, I'm in that boat too, but more Hitler Youth-less.

[Takk]

I think it's more likely the returning Lanteans brought the gene with them.

[Finn]

I think it's more likely the returning Lanteans brought the gene with them. I really am Ancient!

[Littlesue]

Both my kids are blue eyed and fair haired but their dad and myself are dark haired with dark brown eyes, do you think some mutation is going on in delivery suites throughout the land:p

[Finn]

Or are Nazi Milkmen drugging and impregnating the woman of the West Midlands? :eek:

*makes 'Nazi Milkman Leave Those Eggs Alone!' gif*

[Littlesue]

Or are Nazi Milkmen drugging and impregnating the woman of the West Midlands? :eek:

*makes 'Nazi Milkman Leave Those Eggs Alone!' gif*

:D maybe when I asked for full fat instead of semi-skimmed I got more than I bargined for! !

[A Forest]

http://www.philgomes.com/blog/uploaded_images/5ass-742967.jpg
a monkey with four asses.
:eh: I see five asses, and my eyes are green. There must be some scientific explanation.

[Darklife]

Yeah, where do green eyes fit into this?

And what about David Bowie - is he half a mutant!?

[Mokey76]

Yeah, where do green eyes fit into this?

And what about David Bowie - is he half a mutant!?

Isn't that because he was once punched in the eye and it change colour?

Or is that an urban myth?

[Mokey76]

hmm, ive got the ginger hair and blue eyes, :eh:

Me too? Does that mean we're extra mutated?

[live to fall asleep]

blue eyes here too...very very dark blue...is that better or worse?

[Lowri]

hmm, ive got the ginger hair and blue eyes, :eh:

me too :)

[Darklife]

Isn't that because he was once punched in the eye and it change colour?

Or is that an urban myth?

so if you want blue eyed kids all you have to do is punch them in the eyes?

[lala]

[QUOTE=Darklife;1278020]Yeah, where do green eyes fit into this?

Green eyes are just brown eyes with too little pigment if I remember correctly. Grey eyes are blue eyes with very little pigment. We were thaught at school that blue eyes were sort of a genetic mistake. "Normal" eyes should be brown and it's the lack of pigment that creates blue eyes. Most newborn babies have blue eyes that turn brown after a while. I was born with blue eyes, now they're brown though I was convinced they were red when I was a child.

As for ginger hair, there was a theory that it may be a neanderthal(sp?) trait. You're not "entirely" homo sapien:P Which is why I die my hair black as soon as the sun gives me that reddish tinge.

[Darklife]

Green eyes are just brown eyes with too little pigment if I remember correctly. Grey eyes are blue eyes with very little pigment. We were thaught at school that blue eyes were sort of a genetic mistake. "Normal" eyes should be brown and it's the lack of pigment that creates blue eyes. Most newborn babies have blue eyes that turn brown after a while.

Surely that can be said about hair colour and skin colour - that it's all down to the amount of pigment.
Although I am confused by this thread that blue eyes are a "mistake" just because they haven't been around that long. :confused:

[A Forest]

You are one of God's mistakes. You crying, tragic waste of skin. :P

[Mokey76]

As for ginger hair, there was a theory that it may be a neanderthal(sp?) trait. You're not "entirely" homo sapien:P Which is why I die my hair black as soon as the sun gives me that reddish tinge.

So what does that make us gingers? Some sort of half human half beastie?

[Darklife]

so if you want blue eyed kids all you have to do is punch them in the eyes?

i really wouldn't try this, it doesn't work. all it does is make the little brats cry.

[A Forest]

So what does that make us gingers? Some sort of half human half beastie?

Collectibles?

[azima]

it means you're DOOMED!

(mine are a greyish blue, with a gold star around the pupil and a few fleck of light blue in them - basically, they are blue to cut a long story short.) yes, i have blue eyes! and naturally blonde hair (obv not as blonde as it is now as that is all bleach n stuff, but as a little hanna i could have advertised for kinder chocolate)

lets all look at the hitler youth child and LAUGH!

me too! well, my eyes are just blue. when i was little i was the spitting image of the milky bar kid.

[*lisa simpson*]

Green eyes are just brown eyes with too little pigment if I remember correctly. Grey eyes are blue eyes with very little pigment. We were thaught at school that blue eyes were sort of a genetic mistake. "Normal" eyes should be brown and it's the lack of pigment that creates blue eyes. Most newborn babies have blue eyes that turn brown after a while. I was born with blue eyes, now they're brown though I was convinced they were red when I was a child.

As for ginger hair, there was a theory that it may be a neanderthal(sp?) trait. You're not "entirely" homo sapien:P Which is why I die my hair black as soon as the sun gives me that reddish tinge.

i believe this is true.


surely, at some level, we ALL come from a common ancestor, and we ALL are results of various genetic mutations?

we're all mutants.

[user3837]

[QUOTE=Darklife;1278020]

As for ginger hair, there was a theory that it may be a neanderthal(sp?) trait. You're not "entirely" homo sapien:P Which is why I die my hair black as soon as the sun gives me that reddish tinge.

i read ginger hair came through canabalism

[relic]

Both my kids are blue eyed and fair haired but their dad and myself are dark haired with dark brown eyes, do you think some mutation is going on in delivery suites throughout the land:p

No, it just means that you and their dad had recessive blue eyed blond genes, which were disguised by the dominant dark haired dark eyed genes. I love genetics.

[Darklife]

i believe this is true.


surely, at some level, we ALL come from a common ancestor, and we ALL are results of various genetic mutations?

we're all mutants.

Yeah, isn't there a theory that we all share a common piece of DNA that can be traced back to a single female about 140,000 years ago in Kenya (or thereabouts)? (they've called her 'Eve') :rolleyes:

I think there is a common male DNA thing too, but not from the same time period.

[lala]

2 brown eyed parents can have blue eyed children but 2 blue eyed parents cannot have brown eyed children.

[dreamweaver]

I really want to do a diagram to show how the above statement works...

[lala]

I had a friend at school that really disliked biology because it said his dad could not possibly be his real dad. I doubt he ever confronted his parents about it.

Blue eyes are reccesive while brown eyes are dominant. A brown eyed and a blue eyed parent will most likely produce brown eyed offspring. That brown eyed offspring will carry genes for blue eyes so if they decide to reproduce with another brown eyed person with the same genes they can easily produce blue eyed offspring. A blue eyed child only carries the genes for blue eyes because if they had the gene for brown eyes their eyes would have been brown since it's the domonant gene, therefore 2 blue eyed people can only produce blue eyed offspring.:confused: I THINK that's the case. It makes sense to me but they never really explained it at school.

Man I'm bored today. Sorry about the rant.

[Finn]

Blue eyes are reccesive while brown eyes are dominant. A brown eyed and a blue eyed parent will most likely produce brown eyed offspring. I have grey eyes (supposedly the most recessive gene) Dave has the brownest of brown eyes (supposdly the most dominant gene) All three children have grey eyes and blonde hair.

[Tom Traubert]

I have blue eyes, my mum has grey eyes and my dad has green eyes. Luckily, I don't know enough about science explain this.

We drowned all the gingers at birth though.

[dreamweaver]

I have blue eyes. at least i know i'm special now :D

[lala]

I have grey eyes (supposedly the most recessive gene) Dave has the brownest of brown eyes (supposdly the most dominant gene) All three children have grey eyes and blonde hair.

My aunt and uncle have brown eyes, both their children have blue eyes. Genes eh....

[MRK]

My eyes are grey.

Fuck knows what that means.

One step away from being retarded?

[Invader Zim]

i've got greyish-blue eyes, what does this mean

That we will be sending you to the camps, post haste.

It means fuck all.

[relic]

OK. I don't understand how it goes for green eyes, I think it's a fairly complex case; but grey eyes are simply very pale blue eyes.

Everyone has two genes controlling their eye colour, for simplicity let's ignore green and hazel, because I don't remember, and concentrate on brown and blue.

Call Brown genes B (using a capital letter because they're 'dominant genes' i.e. they overrule the blue genes.)
Call blue genes b (using a small letter because they're 'recessive', and are overruled by Brown)

You can be BB - two brown genes, which means you have brown eyes.
You can be Bb - one brown and one blue gene, which means you have brown eyes, because Brown is dominant.
You can be bb - two blue genes, which means you have blue eyes, because there is no brown eyed gene to overrule it.

So, you can be brown eyed and BB, or brown eyed and Bb.

When your body produces sperm or eggs, each sperm or egg only gets one of the two genes, in an approximately 50:50 split. So, if you're BB, all your eggs or sperm carry the B gene. If you're Bb, then half of them will carry the b gene.

Bb brown eyed people therefore have the potential, with the right mate, to have blue eyed children. It doesn't matter how brown their eyes are, even if they're almost black, if they've got that recessive blue gene, they can have blue eyed kids.

Now, I'm going to be clever and use different colours to show different parents. Where I say 'half' or 'quarter', this is an average that works out over the general population, and it's entirely possible that within one family or two or three or four kids, they'll all get the same combination, because it's down to chance, and evens out over large numbers, not small ones.

If a Bb person has kids with a BB person, then on average half the kids will be BB, with the dominant B gene from each parent. Half of them will be bB, with a dominant B from the second parent, and a recessive b (blue) from the other parent. ALL the kids will actually have brown eyes, but half of them will 'carry' the recessive blue eyed gene.

If a Bb person has kids with another Bb person, then a quarter of the kids will be BB, a quarter will be Bb, a quarter will be bB, and a quarter will be bb.

Of course, Bb and bB are the same thing, so we'll add the two quarters together to give a half.

So, a quarter of the kids will be brown eyed, with no blue eyed genes. Half will be brown eyed, with recessive blue eyed genes, making three quarters of the kids of two Bb parents brown eyed. Again, remember, this is an average. One quarter of the kids of two Bb parents will be blue eyed.

Now, imagine that a Bb parent (e.g. Dave, or my mum, or me, or lots of other brown eyed people) mates with a bb person. On average, half of the kids will be bb, blue eyed, and half of them will be Bb, brown eyed, but 'carrying' the blue eyed gene. In my family, my maternal grandma was Bb, and my maternal grandfather was bb. My uncle was bb, with blue eyes, my mum was Bb, with very dark eyes, but 'carrying' the blue eyed gene. My mum had two kids with a blue eyed man (bb). I'm brown eyed, carrying blue (Bb) and my sister is blue eyed (bb).

Very occasionally, and this is not unknown, a random mutation in one sperm or egg can cause two blue eyed parents to have a brown eyed child. This is confusing, and potentially heartbreaking, but it does happen. Fortunately there are thousands and thousands of genes, and paternity tests can be done using them, not just the eye gene.

[_Bloo_]

I'm running out of non mutant parts now. Drat it.

[Littlesue]

I wonder if the Child Support Agency use this, much cheaper than a DNA test;)

[Darklife]

can you explain hair colour now though? :p

[_Bloo_]

I always remember my science teacher in high school making some sweeping generalisation about genetically inherting hair colour and that if you had ginger hair but your parents both had dark hair your mother had been unfaithful. At which point a girl in my class with ginger hair left the room wailing.

[dreamweaver]

thats awful as its entirely possible for the parents to have dark hair and the child red. i think its one in four... If the parents are D= dark d=ressesive red
parents would be Dd and Dd
Then its possible their child could be dd, therefore having red hair...
I realy hope i've explained this alright

[Darklife]

being blue-eyed i like to think the late showing of blue eyes is not a mutation but an evolution.

so blue eyes are the best!

[Jolita]

Hmm, my mother has brown eyes and my dad has grey-blue eyes and all 3 of us have very green eyes.

I don't understand this science stuff but I'm 'avin a word! :P

[dreamweaver]

eyes are more compliacated, basically anyone can have any colour eyes! at least thats what im hoping as dad has brown eyes mom has green and i have blue.

[Finn]

My aunt and uncle have brown eyes, both their children have blue eyes. Genes eh.... My husband's explaination: even my recessive genes are domineering. :lol:

[Takk]

I have grey eyes (supposedly the most recessive gene) Dave has the brownest of brown eyes (supposdly the most dominant gene) All three children have grey eyes and blonde hair.

Well, you could be bb (grey) and he could be Bb (brown) and it's just a fluke of statistics that all the children are bb... ;)

[Finn]

Actually they were the result of Donor insemination. One kebab and I'm anyone's...

[Tom]

Argh, god. GCSE genetics coming back to haunt me :scared:

[Takk]

Actually they were the result of Donor insemination. One kebab and I'm anyone's...

Oh god....:p

[Takk]

Argh, god. GCSE genetics coming back to haunt me :scared:

If I take a red pea plant and a green pea plant, how many cross-eyed flies will i end up with? :eek:

[Finn]

Oh god....:pBa-dum tish!

[Tom]

If I take a red pea plant and a green pea plant, how many cross-eyed flies will i end up with? :eek:

*head explodes*

[walpolian87]

i don't want a child with six toes and four faces :( (I don't want a child at all actually!)

A cube headed child? :P

[Dave]

My mum has brown eyes, my dad has Blue. I have blue. My middle brother had green. my youngest brother has brown. They got through every other colour before they got to the 'dominant' one!

[walpolian87]

I'd like to have grey eyes. Something mysterious and seductive about them.

[Miss Oceania]

I have grey eyes (supposedly the most recessive gene) Dave has the brownest of brown eyes (supposdly the most dominant gene) All three children have grey eyes and blonde hair.

My family is the same. Dad has brown eyes, mum has blue eyes, and my sister and I have blue eyes. I'm about to call my mum and I'll ask her about my niece and nephew, as their dad has brown eyes so it'll be interesting if both the kids have blue eyes. And I know I should know what colour my niece and nephew's eyes are!

EDIT: They both have blue eyes! :D (I looked at some photos. Duh! :o)

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a351/MissOceania/2007-12-2206-54-05_0008.jpg

Awwwwwwwwwww! :heart:

As an aside, they have the same eye and hair colour that my sister and I had as kids. My sister is still (mostly) naturally blonde, but I went to my minging shade of shit brown in my early teens. I miss my blonde locks!

[_Bloo_]

Well exactly. Which the teacher then explained to the class after the girls parents came in and yelled at her.

[Last Exit]

It's interesting that they don't know why blue eyes ever occured, I read somewhere else online that the last blonde person will be born in 200 years time.

[Nicola17]

I always remember my science teacher in high school making some sweeping generalisation about genetically inherting hair colour and that if you had ginger hair but your parents both had dark hair your mother had been unfaithful. At which point a girl in my class with ginger hair left the room wailing.

That's awful!

Nearly everyone in my family has blue eyes - there's a photo from my grandmother's 75th birthday party of all her grandchildren and we all have blue eyes, fair hair, and pale skin - with the exception of my sister who has dark hair, brown eyes and olive skin and just looks like an intruder as she looks so different to the rest of us. When we were little, someone once had the nerve to ask my mum in a supermarket if me and my sister had the same father.

[Finn]

That's awful!

Nearly everyone in my family has blue eyes - there's a photo from my grandmother's 75th birthday party of all her grandchildren and we all have blue eyes, fair hair, and pale skin - with the exception of my sister who has dark hair, brown eyes and olive skin and just looks like an intruder as she looks so different to the rest of us. When we were little, someone once had the nerve to ask my mum in a supermarket if me and my sister had the same father.People are so rude, aren't they? My neice has the same problem when she is out on her own. She has a dark haired/dark eyed girl and a very pale skinned, blue eyed blond boy. It just so happens that the boy is the spit of his father and the girl is the double of my neice.

[Jayseph]

I have the same eyes as my father and grandfather and the same teeth/gums as my uncle and grandmother, and none of the four of us look particularly like each other.

In fact, if it were not for the fact that my father and uncle have inherited other, different elements from my grandfather, I'd be tempted to think there was some funny business going on.

[Nicola17]

People are so rude, aren't they? My neice has the same problem when she is out on her own. She has a dark haired/dark eyed girl and a very pale skinned, blue eyed blond boy. It just so happens that the boy is the spit of his father and the girl is the double of my neice.

That's exactly the same situation we have - my Dad's very dark and my sister's inherited his colouring, and I've inherited my mum's. But some people can't seem to understand that children don't automatically look like a mixture of both their parents.

[Takk]

It's interesting that they don't know why blue eyes ever occured, I read somewhere else online that the last blonde person will be born in 200 years time.

Well, does there need to be a reason?

I dunno, that seems a bit too short a time period, given how blonde the scandanavian countries are.

[lala]

I think the Baltic countries are blonder, probably because I live in Scandinavia. Most of the blondes around the world today are bottle blondes anyway.

What I want to know is why there are so few redheads. I thought the ginger gene was more dominant than the blonde but for some reason there are far more blondes than redheads. Maybe it's true they used to kill red haired babies. I read this was a common practice in Greece and other countries cos they thought it meant the baby came from the devil or something.

[Lone Architect]

I thought ginger was the most recessive. I've got several ginger cousins from ginger parents who married into our almost entirely dark haired clan, so I assumed some recessive ginger was going on in my family.

What I always wondered is does eye colour vary according to nurture? Ignoring my mum (green eyes, very recessive) everyone in my family has the same eye colour, but my dad and bro have very dark blue eyes, whereas mine are very pale grey-blue.

[Byron]

Full article. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22934464/wid/11915773?GT1=10914)

A certain fascist dictator is spinning in his grave right now. I wonder how all the white power groups will respond to this? They'll probably say it's propaganda created by ZOG. The Caring Insect, where are you when we need your crazy theories and explanations?

Of course, this really isn't news. All traits are genetic mutations, but I like the idea of the so called "Master Race" being, y'know, an after-the-fact mistake.


Interesting. I've got blue eyes and red hair is in my family. I actually had red hair as a child but it changed colour when i was around 4 or 5 to my present colour which is a mis mash of brown, hazel and streaks of red. My sister got the red hair permanently though.

[Darklife]

I've got my Grandad's eyes.
I keep them in a jar in the kitchen.


Ba-Dum-Tish!



I'll get my coat